Originally Posted by ChiefAmungum
Update! Pure copper is on the approved no tox list. Well pure copper plus a corrosion inhibitor that is. Look here, https://www.fws.gov/story/2022-04/nontoxic-shot-regulations-hunting-waterfowl-and-coots-us. and here, https://www.dnr.state.mn.us/hunting/ammo/nontoxic.html.

Representing pure copper shot in various size shot, 12 and 20. Not for the classics though. https://europarm.fr/fr/store/sscategorie2-955-Cartouches-grenaille-sans-plomb-bourre-jupe?store_products=1&svc_20%5B%5D=41. If you can get them here...

Hi Col. Of course crows and vultures are subject to lead poisoning. You're correct in that they do not have a following. Now California Condors now they have some great P.R. folks!

To Brent's point. The total population of crows, vultures and eagles seam to be taking it, lead, in stride.

Chief

Actually, crow populations are really tumbling around here. In fact the decline has been stunning. I doubt it has anything to do with lead, however. More likely West Nile.

In any event, turn the discussion of nontox back to population dynamics, where it belongs. The effect of nontox on waterfowl populations was huge. Arguing about whether eagles die because of gutpiles is a losing argument by itself. They do. It just does not matter in the larger scheme of things.

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