Stan, thanks for the kind words but the "recipe" was sent to me 12 years ago by a man who developed the load. Following a tested recipe is like baking a Betty Crocker cake. Follow instructions to the letter. I've been fortunate to know folks such as SKB, Hal Abbott, William Lambert of Sumtoy and now Stuart Boswell of Comp N Choke all of whom have helped me in this obsession with loads and turkey guns. I recall meeting Stuart's dad on a dove shoot with you years ago behind his shop. Gil