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Jtplumb #647302 05/25/24 08:42 AM
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The Hubertus Lebrecht Sicherung or Hubertus Forstmeister Lebrecht Safety was a unique safety found on Meffert offerings where a Forstmeister named Lebrecht came to Meffert with the idea of the safety.

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Odd I have a Lebrecht gun with a lebrecht saftey? Same thing?
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To my knowledge & long conversations with Dietrich, I just do not think Forstmeister Lebrecht made any weapons? This Safety is the >>Meffert Grip<< Safety.

Can you pleasure us with a foto of safety you refer?

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Meffert drilling with said saftey followed by myLebrecht. Meffert’s looks to be a french ideal extractible combined with Lebrechts patented saftey. Maybe son in Amberg sold it to Meffert?
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I have read that Meffert owned the business of Reinhard Stahl)(Born in Selb -10.06.1832 , died in Suhl - 31.01.1880), which was ran by Babette Stahl, the wife of Reinhard, who was @ the helm until 1900/1901 when Dornheim(GECADO) purchased the concern. But Meffert was somehow coupled in the effort? Maybe in 1886 Meffert was a partner or owner when the concern B. Stahl has a footprint in Suhl? So Meffert was aggressively pursuing outlets for his wares.

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Leberecht Amberg peddled by a C.A.Stahle Stuttgart
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Hum, well that brings on more talk. But I am not aware of any cross-sourcing/collaboration of technology between Büchsenmacher Karl Leberecht(1848-1933) in Amberg and Meffert/Forstmeister Lebrecht. Leberecht had the >>Hahnlose Selbstspannerflinte<< along with the >>IDEAL-Drilling-Sicherung<<, where French and German technology collided. Leberecht had DRP # 257748 in 1913 for „Umstellvorrichtung für Jagdgewehre mit Stechabzug“.

The spelling of Forstmeister Lebrecht and Büchsenmacher Leberecht may be the differentiating factor?? But very odd that it all gets wadded up in a Meffert?? Happenstance, maybe, maybe-not.....

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Kinda odd that Meffert’s grip safety also came from a forstmeister? Maybe he was the B. Gates of his time?

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Not too terribly odd & probably commonplace as Forstmeisters had the pulse of the Game & Hunters plus they all were clients of Gunamkaers & Bicycle makers, who many times were one in the same. In Germany the Forstmeister leaned more to the Game side of things rather than cutting timber.

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