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A Mr. William Glass is the new custodian of this Sauer & Sohn DR in 11mm Mauser. He is trying to obtain access to this website.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1050443322




Looks to have the Pieper Monobloc??


Triebel >>Bump<< on forend iron.



Doll's Head Extension with Rear Ocular(Aufklappbares Diopter Visier oder Loch Visier)








Gothic/Fraktur Character surmounted by Crown on forend hanger.



3 Wildmann w/ Staff Sauer Process marks on tube



Serbus,

Raimey
rse

>>In 1881 Pieper won an award at the Paris Exposition for his innovative design. These next 2 images are from the Jury Report and based on drawings Pieper supplied to them.





Here is a Pieper side cocking cape gun based on the same design from the 1897 Sears catalog.


Do not let Monoblock, Monobloc, Demi-Block, Demibloc, etc confuse you. You are seeing translations from the French and later Italian.

Pieper was making the block then threading in the barrels. After that they were placed in a brazing oven. The modified Diana, 1891 had nothing to do with the barrels but rather the locking system. The stepped tubes disappeared and re-appeared over the years. Pieper pioneered use of brazing ovens for production in Belgium.

Early on, it was just as cheap in Belgium to produce a damascus tube as a fluid one, because of the cheap labor costs. So Pieper set up the design to be independent of the sourced barrels. He made all his own damascus in his "Brazil Works" shop.

Note in the previous post where I showed the modified Diana, the warning toward the end of the ad about painted barrels meant to imitate the Pieper monobloc. So even the Belgians had their problems with cheap knock offs.

Many years later, Beretta took the design to heart. Here is their drawing (1957) of it:
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Quoting PeteM on Pieper Monobloc.

Serbus,

Raimey
rse

If anyone has any idea on the stamp of >>Haupt 50<<, I'd really like to hear it.

If it were the Hahn DR of an Afrikan Gamekeeper, I do wonder how it was returned for the Suhler Einhakmontages & Glass??

Serbus,

Raimey
rse

I assisted in getting the current custodian enrolled to our merry band and he might be along soon to comment.

Serbus,

Raimey
rse

I am very happy to be with you all at last!! I happen to have more Double guns that might be for this form. However this is my 1st Sauer double rifle. I did want a 11mm/43 Mauser as it was Paul Mauser's 1st real gun and made have paid too much but it had everything i needed. I care very much about the history of the guns I collect.
I am no longer working but lost all my guns and all my varied Reference material in a house fire about 10 years ago. so have been starting over but no replacing my Grampas Guns.
any help would be nice.
Bill
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Bill,
I'm sorry about the loss of your Grampa's guns. You are right that they can't be replaced, but you can start now, getting guns for your grand kids (and great grandkids). They will appreciate them as much as you appreciated your grampa's that were lost.
Mike