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I Bought an unknown - turns out its a 11.2x72 Schuler

Hello all,

When this one came up for auction last month I couldn't resist placing a bid to "tag" it, just to see high it would go.
Apparently my "tag" was too high, because I ended up as the winner. RIA said believed to be a 404 Jeffery - I think not.

The German metric designation for the 404J is 10.75x73 .... not as this is listed as 10.8x72. This is more likely an 11.2x72 Schuler. Soon I will know.

........keep reading to see what I found ........


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Well,

When I got the rifle in hand, its an 11.2x72 Schuler caliber. The rifle weighs 9 pounds 15 ounces, with a 15" LOP. Here are the markings I found. I would like to know if this was an Oberndorf Commercial action / barrel to start with.

Thank goodness the auction house didn't list the stockmaker as stamped in the barrel channel. I found his marking and I talked to the man that not only did the stock, but did the complete restoration in December 2005. He is James Tucker, and he is a Master Gunsmith and Master Stock Maker and a member of the American Custom Gunmakers Guild. This gun is far more spectacular in hand than any pictures can show. Tucker stocks start at about $5,500 plus the cost of the blank. In this case the blank was over $3,000. In addition the metalwork would cost another $3,000. James Tucker worked for and made stocks for; Jeffery, Westley Richards, Rigby, and others before going into sole business for himself. The number 57 on this stock means its the 57th stock made on his own.

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That’s a beautiful rifle, and James Tucker is at the top of the class! I would say you scored in a big, big way with this one!

Absolutely a work of art! Congratulations!

Hello All,

Yesterday I went to the range. My results are below. I loaded conservative between "normal" and "near maximum" from data was published in Rifle Magazine; Issue #144 - November, 1992.

I loaded using new Bertram Brass with Winchester Large Rifle Magnum Primers and an overall loaded length of 3.290 inches. Powder was slightly compressed when seating the bullets. All fired brass showed NO signs of excessive pressure with easy extraction. Fired primers had normal rounded edges and were NOT flattened. (velocities were measured using a Garman Xero C1 Doopler Radar Chronograph - muzzle velocity accurate to with 0.10 fps)

Recoil energy with this 9 lb 15 oz rifle was a pleasant 61 ft/lbs.

Its important to note: this field test data proves velocities at or above 2400 fps are easily obtainable with the 11.2x72 Schuler cartridge - at least with this rifle. Based on my test, I would not hesitate to accept all the other published loading data from that source. Results in other rifles may vary, so reduce your starting loads and work your way up as required.

Wt. - Bullet - Powder Mfg - Powder - Charge - Velocity

401g - Woodleigh softpoint - Hodgdon - H-4895 - 83.0g - 2,401 fps

401g - Woodleigh solid - Hodgdon - H-4895 - 83.0g - 2,410 fps



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Well, I went back to the range today. The reason being that I ran out of Hodgdon 4895 powder that I tested yesterday. I searched all the shops within the State and the also the internet. Every place was sold out - even the Hodgdon web site. I had several pounds of IMR 4895 which is a tad slower burning. I could not find any loading data for this powder, so I thought I'd establish some.

Once again I loaded using new Bertram Brass with Winchester Large Rifle Magnum Primers and an overall loaded length of 3.290 inches. Powder was slightly compressed when seating the bullets. All fired brass showed NO signs of excessive pressure with easy extraction. Fired primers had normal rounded edges and were NOT flattened. (velocities were measured using a Garman Xero C1 Doopler Radar Chronograph - muzzle velocity accurate to with 0.10 fps)

With this slower burning powder recoil energy was reduced to a pleasant 60 ft/lbs. (one ft/lb less)

This field test again proves velocities approaching 2400 fps are obtainable with the 11.2x72 Schuler cartridge in this rifle. Remember, results in other rifles may vary, so reduce your starting loads and work your way up as required.

Wt. - Bullet - Powder Mfg - Powder - Charge - Velocity

401g - Woodleigh softpoint - IMR - IMR-4895 - 83.0g - 2,373 fps



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Looks like you have a keeper, and some good load recipes!

" I would like to know if this was an Oberndorf Commercial action / barrel to start with."

Did you ask Mr. Tucker this?

Absolutely spectacular.......and it shoots, too!!! Sometimes it all works out.....

According to the markings - this was an original Innman/Muller built in November 1926 from a military action and then restored by James Tucker in 2005.