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Really just need one more Gebrüder Luck trademark, or lack thereof, to attempt to make a call. Gebrüder Luck typically applied their trademark to a metal buttplate also. Anyway, at the very least a German Hammer Trade-Gun composed of Krupp tubes by Sauer & components, and possibly effort, by Gebrüder Luck.

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Looks to have unique & interesting crossbolt?

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This should take you to the butt plate. I don't see any marks and I did not pull it nor did look close. On my way to the shop to look closer and pull the plate.

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Here is my take on the gun, which is not very different from Raimey's. I believe it was built by "luck" using parts from Sauer, for a customer, "to order". When my friend Walter Grass built a gun for a customer, he applied his stamp in the same location as the "Luck stamp". His stamp included his name, but Luck's was their logo. I don't believe Sauer put it together and finished it for "the trade" because when they did that, they usually applied their "Wildman" and crown marks to the barrel flats. I believe it was made before Suhl started marking the proof dates in 1923(this guess includes all the other estimated dates). I don't think the lack of a steel butt plate makes much difference to the idea that the gun was built by "Luck" as a horn buttplate could have been ordered by the customer. Oh. it slipped my mind that in addition to the bore diameter and case length being shown in mm stamped by the proof house (post 1912) it unusually has the cartridge's nominal name plainly engraved by a different hand (8x58,5 S S). This could have been done by the maker or by someone else, at any time later, at the request of the original or subsequent owner. This was not required until the 1939 law but was sometimes done for clarification.
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