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I am new to the vintage double shotgun world. I recently had a family heirloom sxs inspected by a reputable gunsmith and given the ok. It is chambered in 12ga 2-5/8".He recommended RST shells, but specifically a pressure less than 11,500 psi. While I researching 12ga 2.5inch shells from RST; I also noticed B&P sells their Classic Upland Game loads. Here is the link: https://baschieri-pellagriusa.com/hunting/upland-game-classic.htmlB&P's shells run at 6,500 to 7,000 psi per company representative. After searching the forum, I did not see any previous threads on these B&P shells. Any thoughts on them? Specially, compared to RST? The deal breaker for me if the quality is on par, I am able to purchase the B&P in person at a local gun store.
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They work well. Some guns do nit like them for extraction. The plastic rim does not always fit well with the extractor. So try a few boxes and see how well they work for you. The shells are a quality product and pattern well.
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Welcome to the world of side by sides and especially vintage ones. His recommendation for pressures less than 11,500 psi is max SAAMMI pressure for 12 ga. 2 3/4" shells. For your vintage gun 7.500 would be ok but the B&P shells at 6500-7000 psi would be better. Good luck with it and you will enjoy the lower pressure.
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B&P is very good about sharing pressures, but I could not find pressure reported for the Classic Upland loads. The 2 3/4" 1 oz. Comp One at 1160 is 6,500 psi IMHO given barrels without defects and solid lock-up, recoil is a bigger issue for vintage doubles than pressure This is a couple of years old ![[Linked Image from photos.smugmug.com]](https://photos.smugmug.com/Shotshells-and-pressures/Pressure-data/i-hssSKKv/0/KcJnzLLJkXLk6M58qPTHVDX2mtPS9kvJqKX7dcNxv/XL/B%26P%20fps%20%26%20psi-XL.png)
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doc drew...
thanks for the b&p chart...
any others?
perhaps for Fear Roachi, Remington, Federal and of course Winchester brands...
keep it simple and keep it safe...
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I am new to the vintage double shotgun world. I recently had a family heirloom sxs inspected by a reputable gunsmith and given the ok. It is chambered in 12ga 2-5/8".He recommended RST shells, but specifically a pressure less than 11,500 psi. While I researching 12ga 2.5inch shells from RST; I also noticed B&P sells their Classic Upland Game loads. Here is the link: https://baschieri-pellagriusa.com/hunting/upland-game-classic.htmlB&P's shells run at 6,500 to 7,000 psi per company representative. After searching the forum, I did not see any previous threads on these B&P shells. Any thoughts on them? Specially, compared to RST? The deal breaker for me if the quality is on par, I am able to purchase the B&P in person at a local gun store. Where are you finding them on shelves? A big box store/franchise or a local gun shop? I am wondering if there might be some in or near the Twin Cities that a friend could find for his 16.
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https://ammoseek.com/ammo/12-gauge/Baschieri%20%26%20Pellagri-shotgun?sl=2%201%2F2
Looks like you'll need to cut & paste
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This was in Pennsylvania. My lgs showed them in stock online...turns out it was wrong, but they can get me #8 12ga.
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Just realized it uses Nickel Plated Lead Shot. Should I have any concerns using that in a vintage gun?
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Just realized it uses Nickel Plated Lead Shot. Should I have any concerns using that in a vintage gun?
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