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in addition to the above thread I believe there was a Double Gun journal article about Cliff White (?)and his collection. He was said to have owned “all” known examples of some particular grade Gun (A2-A3) or something similar.
(EDIT: I see in the LCSCA thread A2 gun - and collector newsletter etc. ... it's been 11 years, my memory is only so good.

Mr. Williamson I would love to see a photo of custom or bespoke engraving on an LC Smith. Can you share one? I don’t believe I’ve ever seen anything but standard catalog engraving, other than say, the Annie Oakley Gun?
EDIT: I do not consider requesting grouse instead of ducks to be "custom engraving" or "getting WHATEVER you want" perhaps that's my misunderstanding.

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Obviously it was much more common for the higher grade guns to have non-standard engraving.
This is interesting; a No. 4E Joseph Loy engraved

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1921 Premier with a similar motif. I can't document the engraver.

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Drew, those are fabulous, but what makes them "custom engraving" they look "Catalog" to me? A 4E with dogs in circles?
How is that different than this one?
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RE: OWL -- Perhaps I also built it up in my mind. The documention I have read about this did not present it as a gun with an owl vingette, or an owl in circle, I believe it was presented as an "Owl motif" I expect a few scenes, broad wings, talons, sweet deep relief germanic oak leaves, tasteful gold acorns... I jest, but that is why I am curious. I am aware the owl didn't do the acutal engraving.... eightbore, touche.

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Each engraver was given license to choose backgrounds and pointing styles of the dogs

James Hunter monogram. Likely Bro. Tom's image?

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I don't recall the source of these lockplates. Bro. David probably knows

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Originally Posted by Drew Hause
Each engraver was given license to choose backgrounds and pointing styles of the dogs

James Hunter monogram. Likely Bro. Tom's image

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Bro.Drew that picture was taken at the Hunter Homecoming by myself and other photos and was used on a 2011 calendar that Jent Mitchell III published. There is another Monogram ? that I had seen at the Hunter Homecoming that was on display at the Pratt House Museum, it showed two hunters in a boat duck hunting. I will have to go through my files and try to find it. It was out of the collection of Bob Morris. You will notice that this gun has no safety.


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This is not an L.C. Smith but is a Hunter Arms Co. Fulton boxlock that was engraved by Albert Kraus for a friend. The engraving in just as meticulous as if it was on a higher grade L.C. Smith. Fulton boxlocks were never (this is the first one I have seen) engraved.
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I remember seeing Cliff with his “Sandhill Crane” Smith guns at the Louisville shows years ago. I think they were Secialty grades in 12, 16, & 20ga. I would consider them custom ordered, but they were little more than a regular specialty grade with cranes on one side.

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