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There's an easy solution to this back and forth. Download it onto your phone and give it a try. See if it adds productivity. Simple. Aaron Newcomer already is writing articles and translating passages with its help.

I’d have to get a phone.

Best,
Ted

Worry about AI, big time. It’s going to change the world very soon. Remember HAL9000?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/HAL_9000
JR

You need Abrain, Bill.
JR

For once I have to agree with Keith ; AI, like earlier technology, can be useful in many ways, but it comes with a price and a threat. When we rely on machines to do our thinking, we gradually lose the ability to think for ourselves. Invention is the mother of necessity. Technology makes us more powerful, but it doesn't make us any wiser.

I focused on some different things because I am able to multi-task, and there are multiple things worth considering here... such as the stupidity of gun owners who are actually dumb enough to support anti-gunners.

However, I very much agree with Clapper Zappers observation that there has been a proliferation of lies and inaccuracies concerning our sxs shotguns.

Many of them are pervasive and deeply rooted, and I have spent a fair amount of time attempting to counter some of it. I am kind of angry that I passed up on a lot of very nice double shotguns simply because of the misinformation concerning the safety of shooting Damascus barreled guns.

Then there is my interest in Syracuse Lefevers. With all factory records being lost, there is an incredible amount of sheer conjecture about them that has been repeated over time by so-called experts. And it gets accepted and repeated as fact.

The same could be said about the oft-stated notion that small bore Ithaca Flues frames are especially prone to cracking. Yet the actual available evidence indicates that of the relatively small number of those that do crack, most have been subject to severe abuse.

A.I. generated assembly/ disassembly instructions for our double shotguns may do more harm than good in the hands of ham fisted fools who use improper tools.

So will A.I. in it's present or future state be willing or able to subvert inaccurate but dominant paradigms, or will it somehow consistently be able to critically analyze and then reject or correct the vast amount of misinformation that has been stated or accepted as fact?

This dilemma goes far beyond our double shotguns too. What will A.I. do, or be manipulated to do, with something like Climate Change when a preponderance of recent "evidence" is based upon cherry-picked data or a totally different set of weather stations than were used in the past. Should Democrats be concerned that A.I. will reveal them as liars and cheats when they reject common sense things like voter I.D. laws and secure elections? Will A.I. begin to have attributes like morals, or will it learn from the Biden family that crime pays?

I guess I'm not as worried about A.I. as I am about the imperfect or agenda driven men who create and implement it. How will A.I. react as it evolves and learns about truth, lies, and misinformation? Is raw intelligence without reason or emotions safe? What might it do to correct an imperfect world? If A.I. decides that Ithaca Flues frames are not really defective or that E.M Reilly really didn't employ over 300 gunmakers, will it simply make corrections.... or will it sterilize and eliminate the source of incorrect data?

Be careful what you wish for!

The way AI is talked about here....if you don't like the answer then teach it...will mean a lot of AI furniture spewing half truths based on the same human answers we now get on the internet. Lies and untruths will be perpetuated.

AI learns by ingesting massive amounts of data to guide its decisions. If that input is flawed the output will be too. What we're talking about here is mainly text-based outcomes to questions based on text-based inputs. This is different than machine learning which uses data (numeric) to guide its outputs (best example of machine learning you run into each day is pricing, which is derived by algorithm to raise the prices you're not paying attention and be competitive on the ones you notice.)

So Gene is right that this generation (you old farts) know more about what's really true than a lot of what's been written, and you could help capture the truth now -- in fact you are when you share what you actually know on posts here on this site.

I don't know how much that's negatively impacted by the Keiths of the world who vomit random politic views on various threads. My hope is AI is sophisticated enough to filter out that BS from the real questions at hand (double guns and their care and feeding.) But who knows?

On the matter of trying out AI, below are some samples from ChatGPT. I'd never used that before so please excuse the simplistic questions I used. Let me know what you think.







Seems pretty easy. YMMV.

That is hilarious. Easily the funniest posted ever posted on Doublegun. Of course, that is not saying much, but still, pretty darn good by any standard.

Thanks for the laughs.