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I can't lay blame for them making the forend iron or the pattern welded tubes, but other than that they pretty much did everything. Probably forged the frame & machined it? Schilling was a formidable concern that did a huge amount of heavy lifting up till WWI. They could have been the Poster Child for Ludwig Loewe machinery & maybe an outlet. When the business faltered or there weren't any apparent heirs, H. Krieghoff in 1919(not 1914) purchased all the machinery & it was this purchase that catapulted he & H. Krieghoff to be the next formidable concern that could support the current & next conflict. Speaking of outsourcing, during the 2nd Major Disagreement in Europe, the imported work force was housed in lean-tos between the shops / factory buildings.

Don't forget that as Disagreements consumed the workforce and mechanization had to be embraced more & more that there had to be more & more service personnel to keep the machinery @ full throttle. And a Service Industry developed & evolved.

Serbus,

Raimey
rse

It was in 1919 that H. Krieghoff purchased the assets(including property) of V. Chr. Schilling @ Rimbachstraße 37 for 100,000 Reichmarks($23,810).

In 1935 Schüler notes in an advert that he is the Daly supplier and that he has taken the place of Schilling & Triebel who used Lindner as a conduit to Daly.

Serbus,

Raimey
rse

So maybe schilling was forging that actions on 2nd series?

No, if they were, I would think we would see more Lindner type actions from Schilling. But what we see are a smattering of Lindner actions with Schillings name early on in the 1st series & then Sauer comes in on the 2nd series, Post 1902, and you see a lot of similar frames. I just do not think Sauer would be getting forgings from Schilling.

Serbus,

Raimey
rse

And too, don't forget in the mid 1800s that Sauer & Schilling were joined @ the hip:

https://www.germanhuntingguns.com/archives/schilling-valentin-christoph/

I still remember something of Schillings being sold in 1914... I will continue to search.

Also, I have read that Germany passed a law that came into effect in 1924 that weapons had to be dated.... Going to chase that too.

Serbus,

Raimey
rse

And another Meffert Lindneresque
https://www.rockislandauction.com/d...ock-double-barrel-shotgun-two-barrel-set

General Sam Walker was Commanding General of the Third Infantry Division in Wuerzburg Germany in the early 1970s. His father was a WW2 General that was KIA in the Korean War. We (Facilities Engineers) made a built-in gun case in his quarters. In addion to this gun, he had drillings and a 250-3000 Savage Mod 99, with which he shot a Chamois buck. The German guns were his father's war trophy "bring backs". A lot of anecdotes, things were good in those days, with a hunter as CG.
Mike

How about a fine Schaefer, I do mean fine!
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1065304101

Most interesting. I wonder if this was one of Petrov's collection? Stellar accents & wood. 1st Lindner series(very late) and true Lindner series with what looks to be an APUN on the standing breech? Early type A&D Body Action Frame.

Serbus,

Raimey
rse

>>William R. Schaefer was located 61 Elm Street, Boston, Mass. Schaefer started his business circa 1853 and made custom shotguns. By 1883 it was Schaefer & Son and they were selling the hammerless (Daly type) double. Schaefer's guns are my favorite of all the custom American Hammer gun makers. William Schaefer is also well known for both making and shooting percussion target rifles. The majority of his doubles show just a little line engraving, or none at all.<<


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There looks to be text on the medallion and on the top rib. I have serious reservations that Schaefer & Sohn contributed any effort as by this time in Schaefer's life he was just a Gunsmith Manager. He just placed an order thru Daly to Lindner or possibly directly to Lindner.

Serbus,

Raimey
rse