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>>Pete, here's the rib your patent refers to. If you press the button, the rib can be pulled toward the muzzle and off of the gun. Daryl<<


This wasn't for what I was searching but it is a removable piece.

https://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=60372&page=7
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Maybe it was Emil Flues SBT, but German made??

Serbus,

Raimey
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>>Emil Flues [not Ithaca] marked Serial No. 1 Note Flues patent removable rib.<<







I found a few more images....

https://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=190843&page=2

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Raimey
rse

But the more I dig the more I think the SBT could be an Emil Flues, Krieghoff, Remington or Charles Daly Sextuple???

Serbus,

Raimey
rse

Or Ithaca.....

>>Ithaca Flues Sousa Grade, circa 1918. Not mine but I know where it is.<<



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Raimey
rse

Of course one can work on the wood instead.
Glueing on a wooden rib is a quick and cheap fix, and it is easily undone.
There are some limits to altering the buttstock, it is permanent, and probably will not "look good".

Frankly I am appalled by that red buttplate. I think this fits a British rifle but not a Germanic shotgun. And why not dress it down to the buttstock?
This certainly changes the balance of the gun. I presume the holes in the forend are for lead weights. I'd rather have glued a strip of lead to the bottom rib, also easily undone.

I agree wholeheartedly and the general consensus is that the holes are a British Adaptation. I am trying to chase down a thread with a forend with lead bars but the plot thickens for now. But the subject longarm has been passed about with each custodian telling the future custodian, >>Good Luck, Hope You Figure it Out<<...... So as you say, a permanent change that is difficult to undo.

Serbus,

Raimey
rse

I do not think the lead bars for the forend were on a William J. Nittler of San Francisco, California modified scattergun nor on one retailed by Kerr Sport Shop of 9584 Wilshire Boulevard in Beverly Hills founded by Alexander H. Kerr in the 1930s. But I wanted to mention them.

https://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=480428&page=1

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Raimey
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And the weights weren't on this unique Krieghoff either, but just from memory the weights were attached to something similar. Maybe Mr. Fink just showed them to me?

https://doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=623933&page=3

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Raimey
rse

Yes, yes, yes it was Mr. Wes Fink's Charles Daly O/U and I had to dig up the hardcopies that Mr. Fink gifted me @ a meeting @ St. Augustine, Fl....... I have my notes & I posted a thread or two here I will dig for....







>>O.K. you 2 Daly fans who are still following this thread, after just a lovely gathering w/ Mr. Wes. Fink of Dayton, viewing 3 beautiful Daly O/Us, I think "F.A." is to be for Franz Adamy, brother of Albert Adamy, and that the serial number range of 26,XXX is that of Gebrüder Adamy and not that of Richard Schüler. And here's why: I'm away from my notes for a bit but Mr. Fink dug up a NRA publication that noted that Sloan's Sporting Goods purchased S, D, & G in the late 1920s and Gebrüder Adamy made guns for Sloan's Sporting Goods or Sloan's Sporting Goods of Conn. sourced Gebrüder Adamy for some of their examples. The above quoted example and those of Mr. Finks are separated by as few as 20 examples apart and not more than say 500. So we have 3 guns made in the 1931-1932 time period in the 26,000 - 266xx range all with "F.A." either on the left side of the lower tube or on the left side of the barrel flats. Mr. Fink has a most interesting/confusing Regent Diamond Pigeon gun that doesn't have a "F.A." stamp but is within say 50 examples of 1 of the 3 aforementioned "F.A." stamped Daly's so by default, even though I didn't see a "F.A." stamp I still contend that by default that it passed under the watchfull eye of the Boys Adamy before heading to Daly and that Gebrüder Adamy was a major player, possibly along with Richard Schüler who might have been next inline in the early 1930s, in the production of Daly examples. Anyone have any Gebrüder Adamy examples with "F.A." or "A.A." on the tubes or have a handle on the Gebrüder Adamy serial number range?

And if memory serves me correct, I think there were several "Sauer Dalys" with a "F.A." stamp on the barrel flats. So did Sauer also sub some of their non-production work to the Boys Adamy? I'm beginning to think that about everyone in Suhl potentially could have put a hammer or a file stroke on about any example sourced from Suhl.

"E.K." is present on all, I think, and could be for Emil Klett or Erich Kelber. A tough call for now but the gothic "J" at the end of the stamp "Krupp Lauf Stahl" may narrow the field of families. Wilhelm Kelber's mark is on at least 1.<<

https://www.doublegunshop.com/forum...mp;Words=fink&Search=true#Post192888

Serbus,

Raimey
rse

Another Daly trap FA for ya
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1053621512