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You talk about velocity, a 30-06 case necked down to a 6.5mm bullet!!!! Holy smokes no wonder everyone calls him the Father of velocity!!!
All the best

devep,
You've got it...I've taken everything down... I'm sure Lowell has a better understanding of the historical details anyway, c'mon Lowell, tell everyone exactly what this gun represents to American gunmaking...I fold

These are the rounds that Newton designed. I have no data on the 33 Newton and 40 Newton. I do not believe either of them were commercially loaded, but could be wrong.

.22 Newton, bullet 70 grains, velocity 3,250 fps
.256 Newton, bullet 120 grains, velocity 2,980 fps
.30 Newton, bullet 150 grains, velocity 3,175 fps
.33 no data
.35 Newton, bullet 200 grains, velocity 3,030 fps
.40 no data

The .35 Newton had a muzzle energy of 4,100 ft/lbs. The .375 HH is the legal minimum in many countries for elephant. The .375 H&H as currently loaded by Remington with a 300 grain bullet has 4,262 ft/lbs. All data from "Cartridges of the World".

Pete

This is like having a bunch of 3 year old playing, and one get
upset so He will take his toys and go home.
Casey

Casey,
The only choice I have is to disengage...you can't force me to engage in conversation with this freak. I was talking debatable information with the owner of the thread. When Lowell shows up with his latent labido driven metatalk, I must fold.

You know, as I know, as all the other readers know, and Lowell knows, the he doesn't know shinola about Emil Flues...He's just here to incite and discredit all that he can...despite what Dave Weber has warned about...He and his protoge' Joe take turns bashing me...they simply won't stop, even though I publicly bitch slapped him for doing it last time...this freak loves the attention...

I say you have no right to comment when someone tries to disengage from this labido driven instigator. If you want to engage in conversation with doublegun/phone sex freak, go ahead...but if I choose to run the other way, it's not your business...

Go ahead, the thread is open...feel free to discuss his underwear with him...and poetry...and pillow talk...he or it, is all yours...but remember, if another member chooses to not engage this closet queen, it's none of your business...

Robert,
Your last post just about killed this interesting thread and it does you a disservice.
There is an old Gaelic proverb "Is minic a bhris béal duine a shrón" meaning “A person’s own mouth often breaks their nose.”
I’m a relative “newbie”, I know only one member on this board and have no vested interest. Hopefully you will accept what I say in the best possible way.

Your gun lore and technical knowledge is very apparent in many of your posts and I (and I’m sure others) have learned from them. Bait is periodically put in your path – either deliberately or accidentally. It is seen by most and ignored, but it is unfortunate that you “rise” to it and thereby do yourself no favors, because it detracts from your otherwise very valuable contributions.

Please take what I say in the manner intended; persist in those posts and Dave probably would fulfil another proverb - "Coimhéad fearg fhear na foighde" (beware the wrath of a silent man.)
Your erudite posts/contributions would be missed, but it would be a pity to be remembered for those like the one above.
Regards
Kerryman

Kerryman,

Why didn't you take 5 seconds of your time to address Lowell's nonsense? Why do you insist that I endure...
News Flash...How about if Lowell and Joe simply refrain from attacking my posts? Did that even occur to you? Probably not.

Do you see me going to the threads that these guys participate in with the sole motive to disrupt, as they do constantly? No you don't, because I'm only interested in academic info.

Please explain "the manner intended" because from my point of view it looks like their attacks are OK with you?

You probably wouldn't be reading this thread if the gun in question was in fact an imported gun, as Lowell has suggested. It was a lie intended to discredit my posts...you know it...and you defend this type behavior...WHY? please explain

jesus. at one time I expected a more mature and reasoned response from Robert than I did from the other 2 clowns, not anymore.

It would be interesting to see a good book about all of contributions these various people Robert is always talking about and their effect/influence on American gunmaking history. It was probably just good fortune that we heard anything at all about Dan Lefever. At least his designs were put into production and his name became recognizable to the shooting public. It seems to me that Lefever and Flues shared the same type of personality.....cranky and hard to get along with, but their genuis was noted by all who chose to work with them.
All the best

It would also be interesting to try and follow up on just how much influence Dan Lefever's 'Automatic Hammerless' and its ability for adjustment had on say firearms built across the Atlantic????
All the best