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The plight of Canada isn’t something that happened overnight. Evil, and that is what it is, pure, unadulterated, leftist evil, can only prosper when good men do nothing.

Ted, you don't know enough about the country to make a statement like that.

What, an Oldsmobile drivin’ , cutter/folder/stitcher operator from local 1B isn’t an expert on Canada? No way. I’m shocked.


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The plight of Canada isn’t something that happened overnight. Evil, and that is what it is, pure, unadulterated, leftist evil, can only prosper when good men do nothing.


Oh, and LR.....the Wings suck and Winnipeg still leads the league. But I see you've moved on to the junior leagues. LOL

C’mon, Jimbo. You know better to run your pie hole like that in March. Enjoy hanging that Central division banner in Oct.


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James,
The truckers saga, was an eye opener for most of us. Here in the states, we were absolutely blown away at the level of tyranny unleashed on people who just wanted to work. Your government shut down their ability to work, bank, commute, their right to privacy, their right to unreasonable search and seizure, and to be left in peace. Over a medical mandate that was suspicious at first, and ended up being useless and harmful when the dust settled.

It isn’t a blanket statement, if I witnessed a blanket being thrown over a segment of your population. A large, peaceful and productive segment of your population.

The problem with letting the left incrementally erode your right’s over the span of 50 or 100 years is you are left with literally no way to get that back. Read that again. What the hell are you going to do, now, to get what you had back?

It is too late to think an organization like the NRA can help you, at this point.

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Originally Posted by Ted Schefelbein
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The truckers saga, was an eye opener for most of us. Here in the states, we were absolutely blown away at the level of tyranny unleashed on people who just wanted to work. Your government shut down their ability to work, bank, commute, their right to privacy, their right to unreasonable search and seizure, and to be left in peace. Over a medical mandate that was suspicious at first, and ended up being useless and harmful when the dust settled.

It isn’t a blanket statement, if I witnessed a blanket being thrown over a segment of your population. A large, peaceful and productive segment of your population.

The problem with letting the left incrementally erode your right’s over the span of 50 or 100 years is you are left with literally no way to get that back. Read that again. What the hell are you going to do, now, to get what you had back?

It is too late to think an organization like the NRA can help you, at this point.

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If you knew the details of the trucker saga you’d know that it began in the West and the majority were from the West. And it’s the dominant leftist East that infringed on their rights.

Go back to what I said about two Californias and think about that. You’d be screwed. Trump amd MAGA won a great victory but the margin of votes, considering the 330 million or so who live in the US, wasn’t all that much. If they hadn’t won, would that mean all Americans are useless do-nothings?

I’m more aware than you of my country’s failings. I’ve been struggling against its direction since shortly after I gained the right to vote in 1976. What I can tell you, if you care to listen, is there are many, many Canadians who share my outlook and yours, about how things should be. The basic problem is the vast majority are in the West, so their vote gets diluted because so many of them live in the same political jurisdictions. It’s why I believe Canada should be broken into at least two and probably three countries. The regional differences are just too big to overcome and have a shared vision for the future.

Even if they don’t win the Cup, LR, it’s been an enjoyable season. How ‘bout them Wings! Bwahaha.

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Originally Posted by Ted Schefelbein
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The truckers saga, was an eye opener for most of us. Here in the states, we were absolutely blown away at the level of tyranny unleashed on people who just wanted to work

We were? I was at ground zero and literally didn’t give a shyte.


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Originally Posted by canvasback
Even if they don’t win the Cup, LR, it’s been an enjoyable season. How ‘bout them Wings! Bwahaha.

It’s been an enjoyable season watching a young rebuilding team. I lived through the Dead Wings era. I’ll live through this.


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James,

There are a few states that are so reliably blue that we do, in fact, have two Californias. One good sign is they all moved right this time around.

What it would actually mean, if the ‘ho who couldn’t articulate a rational thought from California had won, was massive electioneering.

Again.

Good luck. You need it.

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The plight of Canada isn’t something that happened overnight. Evil, and that is what it is, pure, unadulterated, leftist evil, can only prosper when good men do nothing.

....you don't know enough about the country to make a statement like that. Good men have been trying very hard for 45 years but geography and population distribution stymie their efforts.

Imagine the US with 2 Californias, not one. The GOP would never win at the Federal level. Yet there would be vast swaths of America and Americans enraged by their inability to have an electoral voice.

I'm pretty careful about criticizing America unless i know a lot about the particular aspect I am criticizing. And I never make blanket statements characterizing all Americans as though they are all the same. That's good advice....

In fairness, if there is another impression to be drawn, why doesn't it reveal itself. I used to spar with King, but I wasn't kidding when I recently alluded to Canada's culture and traditions, going quickly down the chitter. I know there's a long standing, not two month, undercurrent hate for the US. I was honestly blown away at how candid the fellow that I believe did shotgun work for you, was recently. Things weren't like that even five years ago.

I know Canada can't train enough healthcare providers as one example. Have you ever met a Canadian student in the US, lapping up the degree, and enjoying the hospitality, but saying the fowlest blanket statements about the US? Lol, I have, and often from first generation "Canadians". I have some familiarity with the violent drug trafficking trade, through America's northern heartland and in partnership with your southern native, and our northern native autonomous nations. Just a few examples, that don't serve well to sweep under the rug, but I'd never be presume that's even bad advice for you.

And lol, we are sammiched between two kalis, it's just that one's called ny. Tons of apathy through areas of your sparse geography?

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Craig, what you miss, and what Ted misses is just how different the regions are. In Ontario and Quebec and the East Coast, home to more than half the population of Canada that sneering hate for the US is common. But it’s near non existent in the West.

The West overwhelmingly votes conservative at the federal level. Quebec votes for a separatist party or Liberal. The East coast normally votes Liberal. Ontario usually has a Liberal majority.

The point I’m making and you and Ted aren’t getting is you are discussing and characterizing Canada as though it’s a monolithic entity. You have no idea the existential undercurrents going on. Not surprising that you don’t know….why would you? It’s not just the lefty problem up here. Canada is failing as a cohesive entity for reasons that have little to do with Left and Right.

Would you think it fair that I characterize all Americans and the policies they support and vote for based on California, Minnesota, NYC and Mass? Would you think it fair that I dismiss you and Ted as ineffectual leftards when the Democrats hold power? It’s taken a rather massive sea change to begin to turn your ship around and you have way more checks and balances built into your system than we do. On the subject of government overreach, free shit army, biased media, entrenched bureaucracy and weaponizinf state agencies against the people, I don’t think you have much to feel proud about. What you should feel proud about is that you’ve started the pendulum swinging. But you’ve only just started.


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Originally Posted by Ted Schefelbein
James,

There are a few states that are so reliably blue that we do, in fact, have two Californias. One good sign is they all moved right this time around.

What it would actually mean, if the ‘ho who couldn’t articulate a rational thought from California had won, was massive electioneering.

Again.

Good luck. You need it.

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Ted, you are missing my point. I know there are other reliable Blue states. What I’m saying is imagine if you layered on top of what exists a whole new California. My point being that when the population deck is stacked against you, there is not a whole lot you can do except leave.


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Originally Posted by canvasback
… My point being that when the population deck is stacked against you, there is not a whole lot you can do except leave.

Which is exactly what he’s going to do next summer. I think to Miss’ssippi.


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