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Without a R.....

>>Ernest August Vom Hofe was an assistant to Hermann Gerlich in Danzig during the 1920s. He then moved to Leipzig with Wilhelm Brenneke.

In the early 1930s he founded the company HOFMANN Waffen und Munition (formed by HOFMANN and Richard Schienmann) in Berlin to build his own high-velocity cartridges and rifles - based on Mauser actions.

In 1935 Schiemmann left the company, which was renamed "Vom Hofe Waffen und Munition".

Exported in significant quantities to the United States between the two world wars, they virtually disappeared with the death of their creator in 1945. However, the names and models are continued to this day by Walter Gehman of Karlsruhe and later Stuttgart.

Until 1939, the ammunition was physically manufactured by DWM. Later, it was manufactured by various German manufacturers, but always branded as Vom Hofe. Since 1962, Stoeger Arms has been importing these weapons and ammunition into the United States.

Today's rifles are based on the Husqvarna-Mauser action.

This cartridge was introduced in 1937. Based on the 6.5x55 Swedish, it is the second in the family after the introduction of the 7x73. Although officially introduced in 1937, some cartridges manufactured by DWM bear the NN marking, indicative of 1933. In 1956, Gehman began marketing it again, manufactured by the IWK. After the disappearance of this firm in 1972, Norma and later Wolfgang Remy continued manufacturing. Production by the latter firm, which began in 1990, is distinguished by the marking W. Gehman V. Hofe 5.6x61. An identical model is produced except for the flanged cartridge case, the 5.6x61R Vom Hofe .<<

https://old.municion.org/VomHofe/5_6.htm

Serbus,

Raimey
rse

With a R......

>>Ernest August Vom Hofe was Hermann Gerlich's assistant in Danzig during the 1920s. He then moved to Leipzig with Wilhelm Brenneke. In the early 1930s, he founded the firm HOFMANN Waffen und Munition (formed by Hofe and Richard Schienmann) in Berlin to manufacture his own high-velocity cartridges and rifles based on Mauser actions. In 1935, Schienmann left the company, which was renamed "Vom Hofe Waffen und Munition."

Exported in significant quantities to the United States between the two world wars, they virtually disappeared with the death of their creator in 1945. However, the names and models are continued to this day by Walter Gehman of Karlsruhe and later Stuttgart.

Until 1939, the ammunition was physically manufactured by DWM. Later, it was manufactured by other German manufacturers, but always marked Vom Hofe.

The cartridge is based on the 6.5x55 Swedish and is the third in the family following the introduction of the 7x73 and the 5.6x61. Although officially introduced in 1937, some cartridges manufactured by DWM bear the NN marking, indicative of 1933. In 1956, Gehman returned to market it, manufactured by IWK. After the company's demise in 1972, Norma continued production. Its success has always been less than that of its "brother," the 5.6x61 Vom Hofe , and it appears to have disappeared from the market during the 1990s.<<

https://old.municion.org/VomHofe/5_6R.htm

Serbus,

Raimey
rse

Oh, really...
Good propellant was made by Vectan (initially, Tubal 8000), new cases by Horneber / Johannsen and SHM (Zirngiebl), proper bullets by HDB and Aero. Two informative threads on the two German hunting webboards (somewhat opinionated, alas...) yield information.

Unequivocally Indeed. Just what do our Fine German Loquacious Friends say? Most of what I have read on the WWW is he said / she said stuff just being parroted again & again & no one really knowing any true specifics? Most of it is gloom & doom with caution, caution, caution that when you get to the where the sunsets(don't go there by the way) the world drops off into a chasm and a lot of Dragons be there?

I am a realist by the way and fancy fact found specifics. No um Artificial Emergencies with me.....


Hochachtungsvoll,

Raimey
rse

But I forgot to look in Dixon & that is where most of the credible info seems to have its origin.


Serbus,

Raimey
rse

Raimey, Dixon don't have much to say on it. Donelly suggests 35 grns of 4895 on the rimless & 44 grns of 4350 for the rimmed version @ 3000 fps he doesn't give velocity for the rimless. he does mention Historical dated cited by E. Vom Hofe in 1937

Nope.
Mistranslated. It means "aluminium hood", and with regard to the jacketed lead core bullet, this either refers to a (maybe hollow?) cap, or a (massive) starter tip.

The values given are advertisement fantasies from the late 1930 and 1940s. Maybe shot from 80 cms test barrels... Unanimously dismissed by German hunters.

Carcano

Well, I will get back to all that. Apparently the 2nd Custodian of the Jung War Trophy was a >>Silver Star<< recipient(3rd Highest I think?). Fantastic story right here @ Memorial Day. The family of the Silver Star recipient has sent an information packet that is to accompany the Jung Kombo chambered in 5,6X61R vom Hofe Super Expreß(they thought 22 Hornet).



My paternal Grandfather was in the >>Battle of the Bulge<< as a Cook as he couldn't stay on the straight & narrow. I am the only Grandson & I had to buy all less one(my choice) of his guns & stuff @ Pawn Shop Appraised Prices from his 3rd Wife. I just cannot fathom how a family could let this stuff go....

Anyway, copies of select pages of „the Static Line“ 505th Parachute Infantry rag were included.

One hilarious headline is „Boche Bungle Belgian Bulge“

But I am privileged, as well as honoured, to be the Custodian of a firearm of such a recipient.

Hochachtungsvoll,

Raimey
rse

Captain Maness had 6 Battle Stars, Combat Infantryman's Badge as well as a Purple Heart. And don't think in the dead of night he backed into a hen-house and got spurred by a Rooster(Andy Griffith Episode).


Hochachtungsvoll,

Raimey
rse

And 2 fotos neatly tucked away in the packet(difficult to mitigate the reflections...)....


Hochachtungsvoll,

Raimey
rse