Thanks. I went ahead and got it. I'm traveling now so I'll post pic's in a few days. I've spent a lot more on crappier doubles in the past. I've spent more recently just on a receiver and stock in hope of finding barrels and a forend one day. And I've also spent more on other projects. At least this one is complete and ready to go. On the bbl flats I read 729 bores. Bnp with a crown over bnp. 12 in a diamond. 2 3/4 chambers now. 3 1/4 tons per sq.in. and of course the words sleeved. I've had many many American doubles. This is my first from thr other side. It feels pretty light and want to get back to take my own measurements. Any one know when 12715 may have been made?