Originally Posted by BrentD, Prof
Originally Posted by Lloyd3
Brent: I do occasionally see a jake running thru here (more west of us normally), but even here once in a while. I've been told I'm wrong (by educated folks) but...I think turkey are bad news for grouse. They coincided with the grouse crash where I grew up.

I'm not happy to see them here.

Another good fishing day today, but pork chops for dinner tonight, plus peas and red taters. Done cleaning fish and having a pre-dinner drink. Life is good here tonight.

I have heard the same about turkeys in several other places, and even about their being the cause of continental-wide declines in quail, but only from arm-chair biologists. I have not looked into the literature to see what it says, but the public is always quick to condemn by correlation. Turkeys have the reputation of avian wolves I suppose. Anyway, there are lots of both around my place.

I am surprised the turkeys are as far north as you. But I guess climate change is doing its thing. I thought they stopped at Duluth, here in the east, but now I have seen a few just north of Duluth and have heard they are pretty common at least a little ways north of Duluth. I suppose wild pigs will be next. Meanwhile there are stunning numbers of deer around here even though wolves killed one in my backyard on Tuesday afternoon.

I look forward fishing, but probably not until this winter. Too much to do with moving in and the shooting season this summer.

Yeah, climate change is doing it's thing, is it Brent? That's why turkeys can now live as far north as the 49th parallel?

That would explain why my grandfather shot them in Manitoba in the 1930s and 1940s. Of which we have photographic evidence.

What horseshit! Does climate change explain every mystery of the universe?


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