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I don’t know that the weather is considered climate, or, that it is more or less comfortable for turkeys. I do know that folks armed with a hundred years or so of climate data believe they can predict what will happen in ten years, and they tend to end up eating a bunch of crow, that have comfortably lived even where turkeys haven’t, for a long period of time. Are you using expansion the same way a paleontologist might describe expansion of tyrannosaurs, with a clear understanding of just how finite expansion can be? 99% of species that ever lived are extinct, although, I hear Dire wolves are making a comeback, of sorts.

Care to predict, in Albert Gore Jr. like fashion, how long in duration the turkey influx will last in northern Minnesota? You can feel free to use his models of an ice free Arctic vis’a vis the turkey population, in the coming decade or two.

You using his logic to predict turkey population would make more sense than what he used it for, but, the results would be the same, no doubt.

Best,
Ted

You are such a bone head, Brent.

First of all, adding the bit about “climate change” was a needless throw away. But you’ve decided that’s the hill you’re going to die on in this thread.

A lot of northern Minnesota is very different habitat than a lot of southern Manitoba. And having hunted turkey in Manitoba, when they finally reinstated a season in 1995, I can tell you the turkey thrive in very specific habitat. You need to know where to go….what parts of the province have that habitat.

I have a passing familiarity with northern Minnesota, from Duluth in the east , Bemidji , Thief River Falls, the Detroit Lakes and over to Fargo and Grand Forks in the west. Like Manitoba, that terrain is varied and were I to go looking for turkey in Northern Minnesota, there are some very specific but limited areas I would look.

The point is their range is limited by suitable habitat ….terrain, vegetation and predation, not some change in the weather.

I know how sad you will feel about this, but I am neither dying nor on a hill.

Thanks for the informative update on Manitoba vs. northern MN. I would never have imagined... Sarcasm, off. I have passing familiarity with Manitoba. Now, why don't you run along with craig and study up on "habitat". And while you are at it, look up range expansion, range limitation and similar terms. Good grief you two are dense. Immensely dense.

I believe I mentioned fishing earlier here too...

Well, here is one of those nasty northern tier, grouse-eating, nonclimate changing Minnesota turkeys. There were only 12 hours left on the season clock when this little guy, chaperoned by 2 hens, made a mistake. Carnitas are secured.

We have been seeing and smelling smoke from Manitoba forest fires for days. A sure sign of natural wildlife management in action.

It is thick in Iowa also. I guess we sent 150 fire fighters up there. That sounds like a small number but I am not sure what is normally sent from other countries in these sorts of events.

Despite the Left's wish to blame these fires on climate change, even the far Left (NDP party) premier of Manitoba, a native Canadian named Wab Kinew, has admitted most of them have been set by arsonists.

Nothing natural about them. Saskatchewan is having a similar sized wildfire problem. Both provinces have declared states of emergency.

I was not aware of the left wanting to blame any particular fire on climate change, but it certainly has created great conditions for your neighborhood arsonists. It is nice and crispy across the north at a time of year when it is usually pretty soggy. But nothing like getting a good jump on the marshmallow roasting season.

climate changes and cultural changes are variations on a theme.

last year's fires in and around ruidoso, new mexico, were ultimately attributed to 2 arsonists - 500+ structures burned , and 2 deaths. i'm not a big fan of capitol punishment, but in cases like these i would favor a public hanging - and let them "season" for a day or two. not a crime of passion, rather a particular form of pre-meditation...

best regards,

tom