My Krupp Steel J.P. Sauer 26" ten weighs 6 pounds, 4 ounces and has very acceptable wall thickness. Don't ask me how they did that. I like everything about the gun in question except the price. I think the game counter takes it out of the pigeon or trap category. It is a driven bird gun for someone who likes to take the tall ones. Looks like a Webley screw grip action but the pictures are not real clear.