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Originally Posted by arrieta2
Not criticizing the Turks

Just saying all these Turk guns are the same
Just being rebranded

Do they think we can’t figure this out?

John

That is absolutely not the case. there are numerous Turkish manufacturers. They are NOT all the same.
There are Turkish guns made by AKUS, AKDUS and ARMSAN, just to name three that start with "A". There are others, like YILDIZ.

If you don't like the Turks selling guns in America just say so. Don't hide it behind a facade that anyone with a smart phone can see through.


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Originally Posted by Ted Schefelbein
Originally Posted by arrieta2
Not criticizing the Turks

Just saying all these Turk guns are the same
Just being rebranded

Do they think we can’t figure this out?

John

You need look no further than the very first post, John.

No, many of them can’t figure that out.

Best,
Ted

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The interweb thingy that Al Gore Jr. invented is crawling with grampa’s old guns, who the hell needs anything from Turkey?
Amen. Know this however, Ted: there are enough rubes out there like Jimmy W who are clueless, that Remington can make good use of. But Stan is correct: they aren’t all the same, notwithstanding certain similarities. At least this model has a gold trigger…
JR


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Starting with the Model 3200 and maybe even the Model 32, Remington has not had much luck with double-guns. Not for lack of quality (except maybe the Peerless) but circumstance.

While I have nothing against affordable Turkish guns, I find it sad that names like Remington and Weatherby are on them.

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Originally Posted by John Roberts
Originally Posted by Ted Schefelbein
Originally Posted by arrieta2
Not criticizing the Turks

Just saying all these Turk guns are the same
Just being rebranded

Do they think we can’t figure this out?

John

You need look no further than the very first post, John.

No, many of them can’t figure that out.

Best,
Ted

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The interweb thingy that Al Gore Jr. invented is crawling with grampa’s old guns, who the hell needs anything from Turkey?
Amen. Know this however, Ted: there are enough rubes out there like Jimmy W who are clueless, that Remington can make good use of. But Stan is correct: they aren’t all the same, notwithstanding certain similarities. At least this model has a gold trigger…
JR

Wasn’t it Chuck H. who coined the term “golden like” when referencing the disgusting gold colored triggers on invariably cheap guns?

To all you guys that love those guns, have at it. To those that think Purdey will one day have a model built in Turkey (not a snowballs chance in hell says I) I guess I’d say I hope I die before I get old.

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Does a CnC machine care where it is plugged in?


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Maybe in the future since Beretta purchased Holland,maybe they will be made in Italy, or parts made in Italy and assembled in England?

Who knows.

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I have owned one Turkish gun and I sold it after I couldn’t get the shell out and I have the chambers checked and they were way off but this was a long time ago. I thought they got better. I went to Argentina two years ago and for club guns so they had rows of Automatic and over and under Turkish guns the outfitter told me they lasted about a month and then they tried to fix them and fix them and they were beyond repair to put it in comparison. He told me a Beretta lasts a year and after about two years, they can’t even rebuild them anymore, but that’s surely a lot longer than the month and he told me they try everything they could to get them working and they are very good down there, but they were beyond repair he told me the receivers metal head stretched out, so even if they repaired the parts, it would not functionand we’re going for destruction !!! Because they’re only allowed a certain amount of gunsand these people the outfitter waste nothing ,and you know Argentina is a real workout

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Originally Posted by aw1776
I have owned one Turkish gun and I sold it after I couldn’t get the shell out and I have the chambers checked and they were way off but this was a long time ago. I thought they got better. I went to Argentina two years ago and for club guns so they had rows of Automatic and over and under Turkish guns the outfitter told me they lasted about a month and then they tried to fix them and fix them and they were beyond repair to put it in comparison. He told me a Beretta lasts a year and after about two years, they can’t even rebuild them anymore, but that’s surely a lot longer than the month and he told me they try everything they could to get them working and they are very good down there, but they were beyond repair he told me the receivers metal head stretched out, so even if they repaired the parts, it would not functionand we’re going for destruction !!! Because they’re only allowed a certain amount of gunsand these people the outfitter waste nothing ,and you know Argentina is a real workout

Well show me a gun that can take 140,000 shells in 6 months that won't have problems except a high end competition gun and even then it would be questionable. Calculated 6 months shooting every second day at 1500 shells per day and while I haven't been to Argentina I expect they are not shooting target loads.

On another note did I not read on this forum some time ago that Purdey was making parts out of country?


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I know of guns that have hundreds of thousands of shells for them except for finish issues still very functional . but perhaps I wasn’t clear enough in my post. They have Guns Smith there and they rebuild the guns over and over again and they last quite a while like the Beretta The Turkish guns they just can’t rebuild. They all have issues of ejectors ,single triggers, but they fix them !!!just the Turkish gun because of the quality of the material the way they’re assembled the engineering ,tolerances ,they just wear out to a point where they cannot get them working again. and I told them it’s hard to believe, and they told me believe it because they tried everything they could even getting new parts.That’s a big difference Between having a problem and the gun being completely incapacitated where it cannot be repaired that’s how it was explained to me believe me they had a very hard time getting Beretta’s there because they told me there was only one distributor and the Turkish guns they can get they wish they could use them because of cost, but they in the long run they don’t hold up And I don’t know anything about Purdey. I’m just telling you what I know in my experience.

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Probably a lot better than that Russian double the previous Remington Arms marketed a few years back.

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