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Coming back to the filled-in slots in the shotgun rib:
the Wiener Schnäpper basically needed 2 tiny crossbars in dovetail slots, as seen here, 2nd picture from top
https://www.fernglasmuseum.at/museum/reichert_wien_zielfernrohr/reichert_wien_zielfernrohr.html
Distance between the slots is defined by action type and scope, can be quite close together as in the example.
(this does not look stable and mechanically sound to our eyes..... there must be reasons why this way of mounting a scope is extinct)

With monogram or not, this gun quite probably was made to order. And whatever the gunsmith thinks or prefers, in the end he will produce what the customer wants (more or less at least, same today as back in 1914). And we may never know what the customer wanted to achieve with this combo, but of course we may continue to speculate.

The cape gun barrels have nitro proof, so I assume the shotgun barrels will have the same.
I would use 2 1/2 shells, despite the "69" marks, use as wads whatver I can get, stick to modest shot and powder loads, and stay away from experiments with slugs or ball.
BTW you have not told us if the barrels are choked

I really am not a constriction fanatic one way or the other but at least one tube has constriction. I will gladly measure the tubes. But I had rather pattern the tubes with a couple shot sizes. I think I have loaded cartridges in #6s, #7s & #8s and I can always pull some #9 shot from somewhere.



Left tube measures around 14.3-14.35mm.


Hochachtungsvoll,

Raimey
rse

Left tube is say 14.35mm +/_ as it doesn't seem quite concentric?

Right tube is say 14.5mm +/- and similar concentricity.



Hochachtungsvoll,

Raimey
rse

The fore to aft width of the Front cut is 0.4"

The separation between the fore & aft cuts is 2.5"

The width of the aft cut is 0.3".

The width of the top rib in the area between the cuts is 0.370"


Hochachtungsvoll,

Raimey
rse

Jani is due the credit, if any, on making me aware of something akin to >>Hair Rifling<< or similar. As in the 24 bore tube of the Biks there are some odd striations. Now I have not shot it nor cleaned it. So take it for what it is worth. The other 24 bore tubes do not have such and are quite rough.


Hochachtungsvoll,

Raimey
rse

Alright, I cleaned the tube & changed camera functions.

Maybe I should clean the other tubes.....

Hochachtungsvoll,

Raimey
rse

Well, after a cleaning, odd striations are apparent remnants in the 24 X 24 tubeset?

Someone didn't clean w/ a stainless brush & make these???

In Grad School in Optical Engineering I worked on a few PDL & PAL lenses that inspected the fuel lines of the Shuttle, whilst racing Concrete Canoes. One of my professors(Civil & Mechanical) designed & developed the lenses. Would be nice to have one now.....



Hochachtungsvoll,

Raimey
rse

I forgot to post a foto of the Standing Breech, which wears a bushed and disk set striker for the rifle, which is a true sign of a Biks(Biksarica / Cape).


Hochachtungsvoll,

Raimey
rse

Those lenghthwise grooves in the shotgun tube set are really odd. Remnants of some sort of rifling, maybe straight rifling? Or signs of shoddy manufacturing or whatever mistreatment?
Mixed with pitting and all sorts of scratches, what can one say?
But since there seems to be choke boring, I'd say these barrels were intended for shot, not for some kind of bullet.