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We were discussing Austro-Hungarian Guns and it seems that few were equipped w Bushed & Diskset Strikers pre-WWII.

Anyone know when or if the Germans equipped the lower grades with Bushed & Diskset Strikers?


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A ca 1894 Ferlach cape gun (better quality with monogram) with black powder proof does not have this feature.
But also my modest Merkel 200 Bockbüchsflinte from the 1960s is without this.

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I assume, with high certanity, that the Biks / Cape gun is a hammergun?


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The proper German term is Hahnbüchsflinte.
And being German myself, I will refuse to adopt any Austrian or Slovenian or whatever Balkanese slang !

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I well understand.... Term it as you wish... Yes, proper German Term; Brits were probably the dominate force, so Cape whilst the makers were of Slovenian origin.

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1939 5,6X61R vom Hofe retailed by August Jung but some say almost all were made by Christoph Funk.


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Some (many?) of the pre–Great War guns had "gas dickte mutter bolzens" (sp) installed later, after the original "hound's-tooth" Schlag stuck was shown to leak gas and are not original to the gun. The Brits were the dominate force in English language literature but there was a lot of scholarly non-English work published. I've noticed Cape guns have the rifle barrels on the left side, but BFs have the rifle barrel on the right and have ruckstechers.

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Fair Point there Ford and I guess I should change the theme to striker progression from >>Hound's Tooth<<(Bear Bryant style Fedora) up to 1950 Diskset Striker? A History may prove most interesting.

To sum up the language variation, the Sun did not Set on the British Empire; they established Hunting Consortiums World Wide; even had a footprint in Argentina.


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Too, early on Sauer had a crossbar plate w/ a spring that I think held the strikers in place. I will have to dig a bit to find the one I have or photo.



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Raimey,

Hendrik says, the Sauer side lock DF from 1892 already had this feature.

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Wolfgang:

Glad to see you are home safely. Lovely sleuthing on the Biksarica, I mean Cape; I mean Hahnbüchsflinte / Büchsflinte. Finally have it correct the 3rd time as the 3rd time is the charm.

So..... What if we exclude Sauer offerings????


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