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I'm looking at this Westley Richards 12ga centerfire and the end of the bottom rib looks to me to have a catch for a ramrod. Can someone tell me if I'm correct? Thanks. ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/g7xyD11.jpg)
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There were many well done Westley Richards conversions from percussion to pinfire or centerfire. I think I have heard of flintlocks being converted to one of the three I listed. Some of the Westley Richards conversions were works of art. Some not that good, too.
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The gun was an original center fire Ansen and Deeley. Serial number places it at 1894 - 95.
Last edited by Mike Harrell; 07/21/25 11:52 AM.
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Typical of Westley shotguns at the time, I have seen quite a few like that.
Firearms imports, consignments ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/Ez9oz9Rl.jpg)
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I know that William Powell continued to keep a vestigial ramrod catch on the bottom rib long after percussion guns were gone. I owned a SLE from the late 1890s that still had it. It was a Powell signature for a long time.
I wouldn't be surprised if other makers kept them around too as a tradition or affectation.
----MattH
President, Ga. Vintagers
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Mike,
That is typical for a WR barrel. I don’t know when they stopped using it. I don’t know what it was used for. I have the same thing on a WR droplock from the 1920s.
Ken
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This picture shows a shotgun made in the 1920s and one made in the 1930s. ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/5EiO80p.jpg) And a fuzzy picture from the muzzle. ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/x3Q7TzF.jpg) Ken
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Mike,
That is typical for a WR barrel. I don’t know when they stopped using it. I don’t know what it was used for. I have the same thing on a WR droplock from the 1920s.
Ken Absolutely correct. It’s a basically an old school WR signature feature. Very surprised more folks here weren’t aware of this anachronistic feature on WR sxs barrels.
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