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Yeah, I should have some Bonded Bullets this week, hopefully.

Serbus,

Raimey
rse

I think you might get away with not annealing the 5,6X61R but unequivocally if one does not anneal the 6,5X70R, you are going to have a cracked case...... But in the interim I did change by Middle Name to »Nagging Insistence«.

Hochachtungsvoll,

Raimey
rse

Anyone hazard a guess how the RWS 5,6X57R might compare or contrast w/ the 5,6X61R vom Hofe Super Express??? I believe the RWS 5,6X57R was loaded w/ R907.


Hochachtungsvoll,

Raimey
rse

In the same vein, anyone have any published load data for the 5,6X61R vom Hofe Super Express using H4381, or similar, w/ an 80 grain bullet?

Hochachtungsvoll,

Raimey
rse

Raimey,

any such comparison of those 2 calibers will depend on the bullet weights and other factors, I will not hazard any guess here.

RWS Wiederladen (the "Blue Book") has data for the 5,6x61R, but only for the 4,6 g (app. 70 grain) bullets intended for the .22 Savage HP (5,6x52R), noting that these bullets are on the soft side.
Min and max loads with R 907 and R 904 are given.
Then there is this note: for internal ballictic reasons (whatever these may be?) R 905 is not suitable and shall under no circumstances ("keinesfalls") be used.

In my QuickLoad powder chart H4381 is listed on almost the same level as R 905.

fuhrmann

Any load data contained therein in the »Blue Book« for the 6,5X61R??

Too, would anyone use a Magnum Large Rifle Primer in the 6,5X61R?


Hochachtungsvoll,

Raimey
rse

If R905 is similar to H4381, it is likely that Wiederladen warns against its use because of the possibility of "secondary explosion effect". In Jack Oconnor's writings about this he talked about it occurring when under loading H4831 powder.
Mike

here is the page from the RWS book.
They prescribe the RWS 5341 primer which is standard large rifle.
Note the book is from 2002, 9th edition.
Powders and data may have been modified in the meantime, but I do not know where to find newer data.
Not important for me anymore, I quit RWS powders years ago

Many thanks for all the info & effort.


Interesting to me is that the cases are exactly 2.4" by my „Calibre Decimale a Cadran“ & not some fraction.

Hochachtungsvoll,

Raimey
rse

I have 80 grain hollow point bullets.


But the more I read & stare @ possibilities, the more I think they may have used Rottweil R5, which takes me to VV N 140. I will see if a measure of VV N 140 in the high 30 grains fills the case to say 90%??




I lifted this image from somewhere but it gives 3,2 grammes of„SpezialPulver„. .

Hochachtungsvoll,

Raimey
rse