Originally Posted by Stanton Hillis
Originally Posted by BrentD, Prof
Ed, you might notice that every stronghold for grouse has a healthy populations of coyotes. And the turkeys on my property are also getting along really well with the grouse also.

So, were there no grouse before coyotes were introduced, or were there always coyotes? What I don't know about grouse would fill libraries, but I do know that there have not always been coyotes everywhere. You claimed to have seen the first one to have ever set foot on the Savannah River Site (🤣🤣🤣) so you obviously know they spread into many areas in our lifetime.

Stanley, I do not know of any place where coyotes have been introduced. But in any event from the rocky mountains to the midwest coyotes have always been present. In fact, the first recorded Coyote for the Western world. It was collected by lewis and clark on their way through iowa on westward side of their trip. And so too, have grouse, although I can't tell you when the first one was collected by a european. You can look that up yourself.

My grad student and I were the first to record/report a coyote on the SRS according to Lehr Brisbain. He was the guy that would know. Doubtful that we were the first to actually see one given the number of cars driving by amd something like 23k people turning over at every shift change. And, if course they were known to be in the larger, general region.

Your ignorance does not become you, Stanley, but thanks for reading and responding to my posts while claiming to ignore me. 😁


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