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info re multiple licensees is from Campbell's book..
  h&r's exclusive license expired in 1885... OK Ed, so you're saying that maybe Shaefer built this gun under license from A&D after 1885, but for some reason, he decided to top it off with a Harrington & Richardson  buttplate? If it wasn't for that little detail, I'd say perhaps your theory is a possibility. Something like the Lefever clones built on Lefever frames by J.A. Prechtel. But Prechtel didn't use buttplates with the Lefever logo. The guns he built had no Lefever markings. The frames had Prechtel's name. And he built more than one.  So it would bolster your thought if you could show multiple A&D actions with Scheafer's name.  Your idea about the origin of this gun is interesting,  but very unlikely. The idea isn't nearly as irrational as Princess SKB's imaginary top lever cocking SxS hammergun. And there is no shame in selling a scarce H&R double that was rebarreled to 12 gauge. It's still interesting to examine and theorize how it came to be. Yes, no shame, but, as ed is always reminding us “let the buyer beware”.  You did notice ‘ole ed has this beater priced at $2K, right Keith? I would suggest the heavy damage to the stock practically screams in your face the original barrels were destroyed and somebody made a valiant attempt to pick up the pieces, find a usable set of tubes, and try to put it back into service. They got about half way. Best, Ted  
 
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