Ted, I always assumed you were one of "them" and the ice-hockey stuff was just your way of slumming. What a come down!! (Unless you are just pretending to be hoi palloi). Anyway, prices for really decent doubles are falling into the tank abroad which negates the tariffs. Which brings us back to a decent possibly £300 16 gauge built in 1900.
Gene, if it was a $30,000 gun, you’d likely feel different.
But, the guys that play at that altitude (not me) usually don’t give a shit.
Best, Ted
You are wrong about wealthy guys not caring about tariffs on high dollar guns Ted. Wealthy folks did not end up that way by being careless with their money.
Ted, I always assumed you were one of "them" and the ice-hockey stuff was just your way of slumming. What a come down!! (Unless you are just pretending to be hoi palloi). Anyway, prices for really decent doubles are falling into the tank abroad which negates the tariffs. Which brings us back to a decent possibly £300 16 gauge built in 1900.
Pretty sure you are thinking of Lonny, he is the one who pretends to know something about hockey. I retire next July, looking forward to not exerting myself like that, and the long slow road to the end with any luck.
I don’t know anything about hockey. Ask Canvasback.
Best, Ted
___________________________________________________________________________________ Hoping there isn’t too much living on cat food on that road to the end, else it could be longer and slower than I imagined. Doesn’t sound hoi palloi in that light.
My statement had much more to do with business than politics, Stanton(are we really getting that formal around here? )
As someone who engages in international firearms sales and importation, I will say you are off base on who is hurt by tariffs, it is the consumer. I write those checks and so do my clients, they are painful and not for the overseas seller.
The last item I bought out of Merry England was a pair of bare 27 X 1 1/4 bicycle rims. The seller happily discounted them to cover the tariff, which, was not the tariff levied on England, but, the tariff levied on Taiwan, which is where the rims were produced.
The shipping ate more money than the tariffs, by far.
I look at gun prices in Europe and England now and simply can’t believe what is happening. A beat up, used hard Charlin mid grade was a hard $3K, circa 1997 in France, and I figured at the time I could probably hope to get $500-$600 bucks for it here in the states. Rich people hunted in France, and the prices of guns reflected that.
Those beat up Charlins are 10% of what they were back then. The recent immigrants from former French colonies have no interest in hunting, especially the pigs that are destroying the countryside, no interest in being French, learning to speak French, or contributing to the generous welfare state that is France at the moment. I’m no expert, but, the societal fabric would seem to be fraying in that part of the world, and I don’t see it going back to the way it was, not anytime soon, for sure.
You can bltch and complain about recent tariffs all you want, Steve, but, if you are honest, you know as well as everyone else right here that you aren’t in a growth industry. If you were, the tariffs wouldn’t matter one bit.
Best, Ted
The guns my clientele seek out tend to be better quality, more costly and rare items. The good stuff has not dropped in price near enough to offset tariffs and a weak dollar. I don't buy or sell French shotguns, no clue about that market Ted. I can tell you that good quality British sporting rifles still command a strong price, and the foreign sellers are not reliant upon US clientele to make the sale, they sell worldwide. Tariffs are most certainly a cost that the buyer incurs.
A growth industry is where you find it Ted, 2022 to 2024 were incredibly good to me, the best years that I have had since I was in telecom industry in the 90's. We can't all get in on industries set to explode like union shop printing Ted
The idea that we are somehow being victimized by a country that has a trade surplus with us and therefore we need to implement tariffs is utterly absurd. Think about that just for a second, the UK buys more than it sells with us....therefore we tax the US consumer. Poor policy at best.
All you need to know about the market in France is that it is as dead as the market in England. But, I’m surprised you think the only guns you can buy in France are French guns. France was a huge market for English guns for most of the 20th century, and the buys are quite good on the very good guns there right now:
Steve, every three years in my working career over my entire life has been better than the previous three years. The Biden administration gave us inflation worse than any tariffs imposed by the Trump administration, but, if you had a couple good years in there, in spite of Biden’s malfeasance, I’m happy for you. Good luck in 2026.
Reading is hard sometimes Ted, especially when facts don't line up with your worldview. The UK buys more from us than it sells us. Please explain how tariffs help with a non-existent trade deficit?
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