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Reading Der Klunkermeister and Don Moody posting about guns was an education. It was also comedic gold. They were friends, actually. It was one of the things that made this place what it is. You want grok, go for it.

What went right over your head, I think, is that giving guns away at a banquet might seem like a good idea, but, it really isn’t. The Franchi that somebody donated had some sort of aluminum receiver that didn’t turn my head, to say the least. It was somebody’s idea of a nice gun, but, not mine. It didn’t fit, I was left handed, etc, etc, etc, and, I wouldn’t have bought it, ever.

So why the hell would I want to win it?

Back then, you got a raffle ticket or two with the admission, and you could buy more. If I could have given the ticket back to the guys who were running the show, I would have, and they could have added it to the ones that were for available for purchase. I never understood why the organization felt giving guns away, selling three raffle tickets for $5, was more effective than selling a regular membership, to someone who actually cared about the organization for $35. I worked the booth at Gamefair for 25 years arguing that, and, near the end, we got rid of the raffle tickets and the giveaway guns. The only “Big deal” was the fact that hanging around here helped me to understand that finding a gun that fit me was way more work and effort than winning something at a banquet that 90% of the time wasn’t going to work out.

The model 21 dig was a bit of a joke, but, tempered by the reality of my life experience. If you like ‘em, good for you, but, when talking about popped ribs, that is a gun that will be in the discussion. This guy has a bit to say about it, also:

https://vicknairgunsmithing.blogspot.com/2016/01/an-unbiased-look-at-design-of-american.html

Don’t own one. Will never own one. Don’t want to win one. I did thoroughly enjoy reading the old guys trash on them and then see what the guys who liked them responded with. Helped me come to where I am on that subject.

Which, was the point of why I was here.

Best,
Ted

What went right over your head, I think, is that giving guns away at a banquet might seem like a good idea, and it is.

I've been running banquets for a long time, and guns draw attendees, and attendees spend money.

The biggest banquets in this area have an almost stupid number of guns. Can't explain it, don't need to, just need to understand it and accept it.

Most of them are guns I don't want to own and would either re-donate, sell, or exchange for a store card (that's the system we have set up with Scheels).

I've managed a 137% increase in banquet attendance in the last 4 years, with a similar improvement in net, so you'll forgive me if I don't accept your premise.

Ted and I take different views on politics, but I truly appreciate his posting the link to Dewey Vicknair's blog. Anyone here who hasn't tried it is in for a treat. Vicknair writes as well as he smiths. Those two skills aren't often found in one person. Thanks, Ted.

This illustrates exactly why I wish there was a reverse IGNORE USER function. Then I could block and avoid sharing anything with grown men who are so hypersensitive about seeing any posts that they find offensive.

When you can't rationally challenge a fact or opinion, censorship is the easy way out. If it was my choice, I'd do everything I could to expose the cowardly gun owners who continue to support the Democrat politicians who never stop attacking our 2nd Amendment Rights. They are not an asset... they are not on our side.They are the unchecked malignancy that permits the slow steady attrition that has cost millions of gun owners in other countries the loss of their rights. They are like the termites slowly destroying a wood frame house.

And typically, the most offensive topics that get these guys panties all knotted up are those that show anti-gun Democrats in an unflattering light. If people like Carcano, the Nutty Professor, and rocky mtn bill went unchallenged with their usual Trump Derangement Syndrome blather, these closet Democrats would never complain.

So now it's time for the usual whiners to contact Dave... stamp your feet.... cry that the forum is being ruined... and then demand that he should lock the Thread. That how it has played out here for years.

My premise. It is not a good way to own a fitted, useful gun in an action style you or I prefer.

Best,
Ted

I never said, suggested, or implied that it was.

Bill, are you unaware of the things that are actually going on in countries like Germany, Sweden and the UK, whose foolish left leaning leadership invited millions of culturally incompatible young males (with minuscule numbers of women, children and older people) into their countries over the last 15-20 years, changing the utter nature of the place? Paris and numerous cities in Sweden having zones where the police won't even go? Birmingham is now a majority Muslim city?

Bill, it's not that that hard to grasp. It's not so much affection for Trump as it is distaste for the corrupt, gutless pandering of the democratic Liberal/Left parties of the First World, in your country and mine as well as Europe and Oceania, that use people's idiotic infatuation for the policies that resulted in governments killing over 120 million of their own citizens in the last 100 years while making life a living hell for those left alive. Unless one happens to be a member of the ruling elite. It's disgust for the willful destruction of the cultures that created the modern, successful democratic world.....the place the unwashed hoards will do anything to get to.

For some shocking reason so many of you fail to see this. It's a mystery to me when it is as plain as the noise on your face.

Trump calls a spade a spade. I'm not thrilled with every single thing he does. I never am with any politician. But I sure like his shit disturbing attitude. Your country needed a serious shaking up. Spend a little time listening to real Democrats like Bill Mahar or John Fetterman and see what sensible Liberalism looks like, rather that the corrupt, hate filled extremism of the current dominant far left culture of the current Democrat Party.

I don't divide my life between those who agree with me politically and those who I disagree with. So I talk politics and policy every single day with those from the other side. And every single day I am confronted by those who are either brainwashed by the absolute lies put out by the MSM or who are such low information thinkers that they just haven't a clue. People like you dismiss people like me by suggesting we worship or idolize Trump. That MAGA are the uneducated deplorable. You define intelligence by university degree. It's shockingly inaccurate and horribly elitist. The very things you profess to abhor.

Oh, and to keep things on topic, $140K for an Ithaca is simply insane.

Please John, we have too many already.

This specifically is what makes this site so great. It is the back and forth debates about the relative merits that really reveal the whole truth about any gun (or subject) that comes up.

That'd be fine.

The ranting back and forth about politics that never has, and never will, change a single mind makes this site a no-go for a lot of people.

Particularly when the politics erupts on a post that has nothing at all to do with the original subject, like on this topic.