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I've noticed a number of SXS English guns that have had original barrels replaced with new barrels. Assume that's mostly due to thinning of the walls in older barrels or other reasons to be out of proof.
Is anyone in the US doing this kind of work?
I also have seen sleeved barrels (Including a Purdey for sale in Anchorage a while back.)
Who does this work in the US?
Merry Christmas all!
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I would rather have a discussion about idiot UK gunsmiths who grind down barrels and make them need sleeving. Don't bother Aaron. He's behind on his work not doing sleeving.
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Eightbore, it is not the UK gunsmiths that you should blame.
No reputable gunsmith will cut down barrels for re-sleeving unless the original tubes are pitted or bored out beyond salvation.
The Proof Houses require Auctioneers who sell guns with “out of proof” barrels to cut into the barrels 9” ahead of the breech face before releasing the barrels even to a Registered Firearms Dealer.
This leaves the breech ends available for re-sleeving, although it would prevent internal re-lining ( which Teague has since abandoned anyway).
The Auctioneer has to comply for fear of Prosecution for selling an “out of Proof” gun.
The rationale, as I heard it, was that the Proof Houses learnt, or suspected, that unscrupulous dealers were buying intact but out of Proof guns in the U.K. and shipping them Stateside where they could be sold and let the buyer beware!
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Clearly, guns that are 100 years or better old are often in need of service to the barrels. I don’t know if it is realistic to expect otherwise in light of the UK climate, and that most of these guns have had multiple owners.
New barrels were a thing, a generation or two ago. The whole sleeving thing is not something I am interested in, but, others report good results. But, we are at a point where even that will typically exceed in cost the value of the gun it is performed on.
English, and other SXS guns, are not rare enough, just yet to contemplate sleeving. Would it be so hard to find a gun that doesn’t need so much work to be shootable?
Best,
Ted
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Sleeving has become cost-prohibitive, as well as being no longer practical for field-quality guns. A really fine-quality gun (Purdey, Boss, Woodward, et al) are so reduced in value by sleeving that it no longer makes sense unless they are acquired very cheaply or are a family heirloom that needs rescuing for dedicated shooting. When it was reasonable from a cost standpoint it was a great way to put a $3000 gun back in service. No more.
JR
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