January
S M T W T F S
1 2 3
4 5 6 7 8 9 10
11 12 13 14 15 16 17
18 19 20 21 22 23 24
25 26 27 28 29 30 31
Who's Online Now
6 members (Ted Schefelbein, earlyriser, lonesome roads, 3 invisible), 503 guests, and 3 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums10
Topics39,751
Posts565,087
Members14,618
Most Online9,918
Jul 28th, 2025
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 2 of 2 1 2
Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 27
Likes: 2
Boxlock
Offline
Boxlock

Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 27
Likes: 2
Mike and Raimey,
Your comments are excellent. Thanks for posting.

Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 12,251
Likes: 449
Sidelock
***
Offline
Sidelock
***

Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 12,251
Likes: 449
Now the typical bullet weight is around 193 grains or 12.5 grammes. so what was the purpose or use of a 15 grammes or 231.5 grains Copper Jacketed Bullet?

To be honest, even with its widespread use, I just not an a fan of the 9,3X72R. I guess I should load Blackpowder or Equivalent & that just may make it palatable¿¿¿

Hochachtungsvoll,

Raimey
rse

Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 12,251
Likes: 449
Sidelock
***
Offline
Sidelock
***

Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 12,251
Likes: 449
After starring @ it a while, I believe the weight is 13 grammes, which is typical.


Hochachtungsvoll,

Raimey
rse

Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 4,977
Likes: 374
Sidelock
**
Offline
Sidelock
**

Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 4,977
Likes: 374
The standard bullet weight now in factory made 9.3x72R Norm. ammo is 193 grains. I have one rifle proofed with a 12-gram bullet and another from the same maker proofed with a 13-gram bullet. We are lucky to have any factory ammo available now but before the war it was available with various weight and types of bullets. The caliber is legal now in Germany only for Roe Deer, but at one time there was ammo that would meet the current energy requirements for "Hochwild" (Red Deer, Boar, etc.)
Mike

1 member likes this: AMtrico
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 27
AMtrico Offline OP
Boxlock
OP Offline
Boxlock

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 27
Raimey - You are correct, it is “13”
Thank you Raimey & Mike for your excellent insights and knowledge. I find it fascinating learning more about vintage firearms!

As for bullet choices, Ammo Seek lists Sellier & Bellot 193 grain bullets as the only option I’m finding. I’m assuming these would be fine?

https://www.targetsportsusa.com/sel...2ra-p-112799.aspx?trafficsource=AmmoSeek

As for Emil Eckoldt marks, I don’t see any more hearts (that was a great catch, Raimey!) but I did notice what might be a “E K” in a circle on the water table - see below. Or maybe that’s for something else?


[Linked Image from jpgbox.com]

Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 12,251
Likes: 449
Sidelock
***
Offline
Sidelock
***

Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 12,251
Likes: 449
>>ECKO<<, sometimes encircled, is his trademark, although that might be the effort of Hugo Eckoldt. Get a closeup of that mark & closely check the standing breech & floor plate.

But that sure looks like the trademark.

Hochachtungsvoll,

Raimey
rse

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 27
AMtrico Offline OP
Boxlock
OP Offline
Boxlock

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 27
[Linked Image from jpgbox.com]

Here’s a close up

Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 12,251
Likes: 449
Sidelock
***
Offline
Sidelock
***

Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 12,251
Likes: 449
C.A. Funk or Kerner & Funk.

https://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=375187



Hochachtungsvoll,

Raimey
rse

1 member likes this: AMtrico
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 4,977
Likes: 374
Sidelock
**
Offline
Sidelock
**

Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 4,977
Likes: 374
AMtrico,
The currently available S&B ammo is fine to use, but older S&B ammo I have shows a little less velocity than other makes. This makes little, if any difference. The older cases (like mine) are Berdan primed, but those on the market are boxer primed and perfectly useable with American primers. You should save all the cases and handload them.
Mike

Page 2 of 2 1 2

Link Copied to Clipboard

doublegunshop.com home | Welcome | Sponsors & Advertisers | DoubleGun Rack | Doublegun Book Rack

Order or request info | Other Useful Information

Updated every minute of everyday!


Copyright (c) 1993 - 2024 doublegunshop.com. All rights reserved. doublegunshop.com - Bloomfield, NY 14469. USA These materials are provided by doublegunshop.com as a service to its customers and may be used for informational purposes only. doublegunshop.com assumes no responsibility for errors or omissions in these materials. THESE MATERIALS ARE PROVIDED "AS IS" WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EITHER EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANT-ABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE, OR NON-INFRINGEMENT. doublegunshop.com further does not warrant the accuracy or completeness of the information, text, graphics, links or other items contained within these materials. doublegunshop.com shall not be liable for any special, indirect, incidental, or consequential damages, including without limitation, lost revenues or lost profits, which may result from the use of these materials. doublegunshop.com may make changes to these materials, or to the products described therein, at any time without notice. doublegunshop.com makes no commitment to update the information contained herein. This is a public un-moderated forum participate at your own risk.

Note: The posting of Copyrighted material on this forum is prohibited without prior written consent of the Copyright holder. For specifics on Copyright Law and restrictions refer to: http://www.copyright.gov/laws/ - doublegunshop.com will not monitor nor will they be held liable for copyright violations presented on the BBS which is an open and un-moderated public forum.

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.0.33-0+deb9u11+hw1 Page Time: 0.038s Queries: 33 (0.016s) Memory: 0.8409 MB (Peak: 1.9016 MB) Data Comp: Off Server Time: 2026-01-03 02:19:46 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS