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That, and the requirement of the Proof House in order to re-prove the barrels
CONDITION AND INFORMATION PRIOR TO PROOF
9. (3) Each barrel shall be, if sent for proof, clean, free from rust, pitting, dents and bulges, both internally and externally, or, if sent for re-proof, in a reasonable condition, to the satisfaction of the Proof Master.
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Eightbore,
Most of the guns that needed sleeving started life in the days of corrosive primers, which had particularly deleterious effect when nitro powders replaced black and boiling out became less common.
Internal lapping out should have only been carried out to remove pitting caused by the owners neglect.
Again, striking down the exterior of the barrels would only be needed if the outside had been allowed to rust more than superficially.
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Keep telling yourselves that as you peruse UK gun ads for high condition guns with "wall thickness below recommended minimums". All of my English guns have perfect original bores, untouched by UK gunsmiths. Some are close to two centuries old.
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Tut, that is interesting information about Mr. Begley. Does his sleeving process weld the seams on the new barrel ?
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Tut, that is interesting information about Mr. Begley. Does his sleeving process weld the seams on the new barrel ?
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Please explain. What is "welding the seams"?
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The cutoff that has the lumps on it is welded to the replacement tubes, and struck down. When you are not talking Damascus, in an old gun like the Fox quoted above, you are talking low carbon steel, which, welds beautifully. I’m not a Damascus guy, and don’t know what is done in that case.
Other repair options include silver soldering the tubes, or brazing, but, I’ve never seen brazing perpetrated at this point.
Unless you are talking about a monobloc gun, where the lump is a single piece of steel, I’m not terribly interested in the concept of sleeving. If you are, well, good. I’ve heard all the arguments, I’ll use an actual monobloc gun, but, that is where it ends for me.
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I frankly do not know. I know he has done more then a few. Has tubes for different gauges. All the tubes are from the UK. I know he sleeved a Fox 20 gauge down to a 28 gauge with 32" barrels.
Last edited by tut; 12/31/25 08:02 PM.
foxes rule
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Please explain. What is "welding the seams"? When the seams are welded and subsequently struck down as Ted said, in the best fashion, the seams become invisible. After polishing and bluing, of course.
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