I agree with Daryl I had an ultralight 410 I paid over $10,000 for everybody was amazed by it. It felt right it looked great. I would sit and just hold it when I went to shoot it. It was to light I swung it very fast shot through the birds and targets when I would shoot a lot of targets quickly it became so hot. I couldn’t even hold it and I didn’t have a glove. It was just the worst shooting. I did with a 410 in a long time I quickly sold the gun and I always likedthe over Johnson Skeeter in 410 and it’s just right great suggestion.