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Look like a 1897 Proof Date?? I have seen as early as 1901/1902 from Zella-Mehlis but I don't know that I have seen a longarm dated prior to that???


Service Load data with British Schultze Powder-Voluntary Proof









J.J. Reeb Monogram

Interesting Wilhelm Robert Eblen Bitz Action double sourced from JJ Reeb and looks to have a date of 1897??

Wilhelm Robert Eblen hung out his gunmaking shingle in 1895 in Stuttgart(Germany not Arkansas) and I assume his Bad Cannstadt satellite office had a similar opening date??

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1140204247


Hochachtungsvoll,

Raimey
rse

The last (indirect) scion of the family - bearing another name - is still in the trade, and recently even returned to Stuttgart. Now employed with Frankonia Jagd there.

Great info there 7,35mm Carcano, but can you add some details¿

Hochachtungsvoll,

Raimey
rse

2,5 Grammes of British Schultze powder &
28,3 Grammes of Lead Shot.

Now the German Proof Law of 1891 was rushed to get out the door and to get pushed thru the Reichstag. for the most part being copies of the British Scales of 1887 but in metric weights and dimensions; therefore, it did not account for the new fangled, and ever changing, smokeless/sem-smokeless powders. Belgian & British proof laws considered the smokeless powder and German settled on the British Schultze because it was slower burning than the violent German Gelatinized Powders. Many German Ballisticians swore off the British Schultze powder referring to it as irregular with high pressures and heavy recoil. So the Frankfurt on the Oder Proof Facility in its infinite wisdom adopted the Troisdorfer and that's where the >>Tr.<< and >>Crown over F<< got its opportunity to shine. The other German Proof Facilities held with ole Irregular Schultze & pressed on, as we have it here.


Hochachtungsvoll,

Raimey
rse

Sure. I wrote it here:
https://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showthreaded&Number=666767

Person of interest is Jürgen Warkus. After writing that post, I picked up a gun (eGun auction) at Waffen-Landmesser in Pforzheim, and was informed by a colleague, upon my explicit inquiry, that Warkus had moved his job.

Regards,
Carcano

Quite interesting there 7,35 Carcano. Possibly leads to more mining....


W. Eblen has always been quite elusive as far as info.....




I have chased Röchling Spezialstahl a couple times.

https://doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=28260&Number=320681


Hochachtungsvoll,

Raimey
rse

I didn't really look, but was Chr. Funk the maker of that bolt gun w/ Röchling Spezialstahl?

I would say we all are Novice Historians here.... Otherwise, we just really wouldn't be here...



Hochachtungsvoll,

Raimey
rse

Here's Franz Kettner Hahn Dreiling in 8X57R/360 that passed thru the Collath Frankfurt on the Oder Proof Facility with load data of 1,5 grammes of Triosdorfer B. P. with a 15 gramme lead bullet.


Hochachtungsvoll,

Raimey
rse