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I need a new source for some hinge pin lube. I used Owen's that I would get from Jeff's Outfitters. Any suggestions?

Here ya' go, Mike.

https://www.lubriplate.com/products/sfl-gun-grease

I've been using Lubriplate in certain applications on the farm for longer than I can remember. A time-proven lubricant company.

There is no shortage of good lubricants out there. I tend to use bicycle bearing grease because I have it, and it comes in convenient little tubes.

Do you really need grease or will oil work just as well?

I have always used CLENZOIL everywhere on a gun and I have never had a problem or needed anything else. Although, just for that heck of it I have recently started using the gun grease on the hinges which I get in a tubes at the local gun shops/stores. Several companies make it. Lucas, Remington and many others. I am a hoarder, (they refer to as Dimmy) so I have numerous brands of gun grease ready to go. Good luck in your search.

I prefer the right grease on high impact load areas, such as hinge pins and the knuckle/forend iron joint, and locking bolt contact areas. Oil for other low impact places, like ejectors, triggers, top lever spindles, etc

JMOMMV

There's a reason that 5W-20 oil, which is used in an engine, isn't used in high impact applications like the differential and gearboxes.

Buzz, grease is oil...suspended in a thick soap base to keep it in place.

A small amount of any good grease or oil will be fine to lubricate a shotgun hinge pin joint or knuckle. Oil is more likely to run off or soak into wood if you use too much. The main concern is that you have a film of good lube that is free of any abrasive dirt or contaminants. Most people should never run out of it since so little is needed. DimmyW might because he says he cleans his guns twice a week. I use Mobil synthetic grease, but have several other brands in the garage. Any would be fine.

For years, we ran Lubriplate on the big machines in the bindery that required daily greasing, cam followers, shafts with open bearings, right angle gears driving chains, etc. the place is full of them. My operator was a woman who ran stitchers for 40 years, and I switched her over to Mobile One synthetic, and told her to keep track of replacement of the parts that wear. I had a devil of a time getting all the cans of Lubriplate away from her, but, in the end she ended up with her acid brush in a tube of Mobile One.

We haven’t had to replace any wear items since the switch. I was stunned at how much longer the life of wear items on the machines were.

A lifelong friend who single handily does the maintenance at a commercial print operation that does $65 million in business (no way do I want his job) told me to make the switch. We knew the synthetics had a longer lifespan as lubricants, but, from what I can tell they remain superior during that entire span.

Probably not an apples and oranges comparison, the shop is always 65 degrees, constant humidity, etc, but, the synthetics are far more temperature stable, a factor that would be useful on a competition gun, or, out in the cold.

I’ve been running Mobile One or Mobile 28 on the guns. But, honestly, if you are cleaning them and putting them away lubed, that is likely more important than what you are using.

Don’t use Vaseline. It has zero shear and no EP protection.

Best,
Ted

Lippard's Perazzi book says just use 30 weight motor oil but Perazzi gives a tube of grease with a new gun. The bad news on grease is it collects grit and can be abrasive if gritty, which isn't a big deal if you frequently clean your gun which sadly many people do not do. I like 30 weight motor oil and a lube called tri flow that contains teflon. I clean my guns pretty thoroughly after each use (usually). Moral of the story....any lube is better than nothing.

Any medium weight oil or light grease will do just as well as any fancy overpriced proprietary brand .Secret is not to over do it and to clean regularly .

Ian Sweetman in a recent YT video series disassembled, cleaned, and lubed a set of Purdey locks. He mixed oil with Vaseline and then warmed the lock with a heat gun, gently, as, he said, Purdey does in their shop. Never thought of mixing oil and Vaseline.

Choke tube grease works fine too. And you might find it handy.

Did he say what the advantages were of this magical concoction?

Good to see you posting, Graham.

Best,
Ted

I have used shooters choice for years.

I think any good grease would be fine.

Don't over think this

John
Arrieta

STOS clear lubricant, source Shotgunsportsmagazine.com

If I remember correctly, I think he said the Vaseline kept the oil stationary so as not to soak the wood I suppose.

Basically, a homemade grease. Seems like the hard way around the mountain, but interesting that he would do it.

Beretta says oil. British Sporting Arms says oil. Vaseline is probably fine and cheap but it runs in warm weather. I use Mobil Synthetic grease (red). If I recall, I paid about $20 five years ago for a can about five inches tall. I have used about 20% of it in that period. It is a one and done and will outlast me.

Double guns are not turbine engines. Just use something. Don’t run it dry. Clean off the old and apply clean new oil or grease often . I like Red and Tacky grease. A tube or can will last a lifetime.

Birchwood Casey makes choke lube and universal grease also. I got a few tubes of them, too. I figure they should make a decent product. 👍

No disrespect intended, Mark. But, corn headers on John Deere combines are not turbines either. But the manual calls for three different lubricants for them. Corn head grease for the gearboxes, polyurea type grease for the bearings and SAE 80W-90 in the chain housing. And, there are fellows here who paid more for their shotguns than a corn header costs. Point is, it's not that hard, or expensive, to use the best lubricant for the job, IMO.

So you are saying double guns are corn heads? Maybe you should try the oil and vaseline mixture on your corn head next year. I think that would be great.

I'm sure we can get another four or five pages of posts on this topic.

Meanwhile, I think John had the right idea, do not overthink this.

I know this is going to be tough for you, given your obvious problems with grammar and sentence construction, but try.

My previous post used what is called, in literary terms, an analogy. An analogy is a way of saying something is like something else to make a point. I can see that either that was lost on your understanding or, you purposely wanted to belittle my analogy in an attempt to belittle me. Either way, let's pick it apart to show that it meets the definition of an analogy.

A double gun is not like a corn head in any way, except the importance for proper care and lubrication. The lubrication part is where you got lost in the weeds, apparently. Certain places on a double gun need different types of lube to meet the needs in an ideal way. A corn head is the same, thus the analogy.

Read this through a few times and I'm sure a little light bulb will come on. Unless, your post was totally written in meanness and you really DO understand analogies. Makes no real difference to me.

'Bye now.

Thanks, Stanly. You are right on time, as predictable as ever.

My post was made in the same spirit as so many of yours referring me. What goes around comes around.

Now, next time, try to use something like a spaceship for an analogy. That way, you can sound even more sophisticated. Keep working on it. Your hobby horse is getting taller by the second.

Is not this so much better than when you pretended to ignore me?

From the land of hale rain sleet and snow sometimes all in one day and of course damp ,the UK. The most reliable double barrel knuckle lubricant that manages to keep in front of the weather here is Lucas Red "N" Tacky grease it stays where you put it it cant be removed with wet weather even on the rear hot sunny days it stays put, and manufactured on your side of the pond and one fourteen ounce tub will last you more than your lifetime if just used on a guns "Hinge Pin".

Icky, sticky, oily, applicators etc.

What is the yellow oil in the "pen", Ken?

[quote=Stanton Hillis]What is the yellow oil in the "pen", Ken?[/quote.

Stan,

PW PENX lubricant…..just a bit heavier than REM OIL.

Thanks, Ken.

Lemme roll this dead horse over for another beating. Rich Cole on grease:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6hNjXfDPwXM

Thanks Gil. This is such a no-brainer subject. Your post gives great clarity to doing what anyone with an ounce of double gun care should know from day one.
JR

Oh boy... now we'll have someone asking where they could buy one of those small containers of Cole Grease, as was used in the video.

Since we can be fairly confident this guy does not operate an oil refinery, it is almost certainly a brand name commercial grease, bought in bulk drums, and repackaged into little jars. Add a drop of motor oil and you could even call it a secret proprietary blend.

It looks remarkably like Mobil 1 synthetic grease, but only your tribologist would know for sure...

He should’ve ended the video with something like this: “if you didn’t already know this, get a ball peen hammer and hit yourself in the head because you’re a retard”.

Cole was careful to say "any grease" can be used.
Not accusing anyone mentioned here of doing this, but I, too, wonder if any “specialty” gun products are simply a repackaging of a lubricant also used in other fields under a different label. Decades ago, there was a belief that some products sold as a silicone based dry fly floatant were a woman’s beauty product (Albolene make-up removal) repackaged as fly floatant, but at higher price per oz. Gil

Did anybody catch the brand name of the old toothbrush he was using? Gotta’ be like Cole’s no?

Back in the day, the oil additive package that went into Havoline motor oil was head and shoulders above what went into just about anything else. This was understood in the industry, and a different company quietly bought just the additive package to use themselves. If you ever saw, or, purchased STP motor oil treatment, that is what you were buying, the straight up Havoline additive package from their motor oil, sans motor oil.

Repackaging has been a thing for a long time.

Best,
Ted

The sad truth is that the people who sell certain products, count on the people who buy those products, not knowing a whole lot about them. The wood finishing industry counts on it. I seriously doubt all these reloading companies have labs cooking up bullet and case sizing lubes, as Gil said.

Tim

Geez. some guys posted over a half a dozen times on hinge pin grease. I guess it is just a sandbox. Once you have read gunman's post, all should have gone to something else.

Guy. Singular. One guy posted 6 times.

Best,
Ted

Now that's a required googling. Here's another term: "horologist" They use some sophisticated lubricants that aren't your 3-1 oil. For those with no current hunting seasons and infected with cabin fever and have gear head leanings, check out Marshall Suttclife's Wristwatch Revival on YT. A former professional poker player with over 1 million subscribers. Gil

Wristwatch Revival is top notch IMO. I believe I’ve seen every episode. I especially like the repairs he does for kids and family heirlooms.

post deleted as it was misplaced and should have been in the Blissett post.

The good stuff:

https://skygeek.com/castrol-braycot...msclkid=42a72a401db6121cccae43d0dde11f14


I think the rifle guys say your scope should cost as much as your gun, maybe the shotgun guys should have grease that costs as much as their gun!

Best,
Ted

Yeah, but if you buy 24 of them, you save $178 a tub. And just think, every spoonful you slop on your gun increases its value $100.

And as far as scopes go, people pay more for a case of beer than I paid for some of my scopes. It's a funny world.


Tim

I have cheap scopes, and just a couple of better scopes. What I lack is eyes young enough to know the difference.

Best,
Ted

Great show. Been watching for a couple of years. His running commentary is superb.
JR