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I grew up with an Ithaca Model 37, ribbed 20 gauge and shot with it most of my life. It had a full choke and I was extremely good with it- even as a kid hunting rabbits, quail and squirrel. That's why I was so disheartened with this gun. I have been looking for a 20 gauge 21 for about a year now that I don't have to have shipped to me. With ANY chokes. I can get used to any gun chokes. I am real particular with my guns and don't want them messed with. I can shoot skeet with just about any chokes. I have a 12 gauge 21 that has been opened to CYL/CYL and it is a great skeet gun for me. I guess I just don't want another 21 that has been messed with. When I see someone take a gun like a 21 and put screws in chokes in it, I'd never want it. I would have been able to do just fine with the M/F. But I'd hate to buy it and find out it is messed up. It would have been fine if it was originally IC/IM, but I guess I don't want to spend that much money and have it messed with. So, maybe I'll just keep looking. There is a big show this weekend. I'll be there there looking. Thanks, guys.

I always carry a gauge in my car with me. But when I saw that this gun had been messed with I just felt sick and left. It's not that the chokes are opened- it's the fact that I have no idea who did the work. That's the bottom line. I'll probably keep looking. Thanks

You don't know that the chokes were opened. Measure them with a bore micrometer.

I intend to the first chance I get. They have a tag that says they are, though. The metal looks awfully thin. But you're right. Thanks. 👍

There are plenty of "all original" vintage shotguns for sale that are not so all original. Just saying.

Go by your first instincts!

You have already stated that the thought of these chokes possibly being altered made you feel sick about the gun. That feeling will never go away, so it's best to walk away!

The following is only my opinion. A guy can spend his money on whatever he wants and do with his stuff as he pleases.
I do however feel that it would be a special kind of dumbass to take a scarce set of sub gauge Model 21 barrels
and open up Full all the way to Improved Modified.

I'll bet you money, chalk or marbles those chokes are original.

I agree, Bob. One man's light full is another man's improved modified.

I was waiting for your input, Bob. What took you so darn long? Ha-ha!! You were absolutely right, buddy. I called over there this morning and started asking questions. I had the guy take the gun apart and he said it was stamped M/F. And he said the ticket said it is IC/IM. I asked him to measure the barrels. He said, "Oh, wait a minute. These chokes are M/F!" I told him I would be over and take a look at it again, later. So, after having my dentist pull a crown off of my tooth and fill a cavity. Then make a temporary tooth. I headed over. Sure enough, they had read their gauge wrong. It was choked M/F. So, thanks so much for all of your help and opinions gentlemen. I really appreciated it. Have a nice week!!