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When you measure a barrel for choke, you are measuring constriction, not choke. Constriction has an effect on choke (the main one) which is defined as the percentage of the shot load striking inside a circle of defined diameter at a defined distance. We hope the constriction reflects choke, because it is easier to determine by measuring the barrel itself, whereas determining choke requires patterning, which requires counting the shot in the load and counting the number of shot pellets striking the board within the circle. With this information, a percentage can be determined. In addition to constriction, the shot size, shot load, charge weight, bore size, protective devices (shot cups, etc) can affect choke. If a premium shotgun is made to order, the customer will typically be asked what choke is desired, with what specific load, and the constriction will be adjusted to give a pattern percentage within the range of that choke. The choke will then be marked. If an economical gun has the choke marked by constriction alone, it may or may not pattern to that percentage. It would be bad to have a "falling out" with a friend or lose a customer over a question choke vs. constriction.
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Thanks Mike. That is great info. I appreciate it. All I have is one of those brass gauges from CSMC. And I'll let you in on a little secret. Those things aren't even accurate. This gun's chokes compare with my other 20 gauge guns mark M/F. But I started measuring my other chokes like my Beretta & Browning chokes (even the 12 gauge guns) and some of them are a couple stages off. One of the Beretta chokes marked Modified showed IC with that gauge. On a few of them. But, in the end, the gun was so nice I decided to bring it home. It's going to be babied in a good home in my safe. I appreciated all the remarks. I missed some comments from the people I have on ignore. But, it's like Rosemary Clooney always said, Kay-Sarah, Sarah!! Take care.

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I am going to call Cody later on and see if there is any paperwork. Their time zone is a little behind us here in Tree City, Indiana. 👍

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But, it's like Rosemary Clooney always said, Kay-Sarah, Sarah!! Take care.

Rotflmao! Only DimmyW would post "Kay-Sarah, Sarah" (I can't stop laughing) in place of the correct "Que Sera, Sera", famously done by Doris Day. Boobus Americanus who needs a seeing-eye dog to help with his gun-buying decisions. Too funny...
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^^^^^^ I'm sorry, but, I am ignoring you. ^^^^^^^ You have made too many stupid remarks in the past and caused to many problems for others to converse with you anymore. And it isn't fair for the intelligent, decent people on here to take up their time arguing with you and ruining this website for them. But, you have nice day.

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I am going to call Cody later on and see if there is any paperwork. Their time zone is a little behind us here in Tree City, Indiana. 👍

I'd like to believe that you actually bought this gun DimmyW, but it seems like you just make up a lot of stuff.

When did you move to Indiana? You told us that you lived in the same house for over 40 years, and it was owned by your parents. You even posted a picture once, of a Corvette you said you owned, parked next to your house. It had Ohio license plates...

And the Dodge Charger you said you rented to take a shotgun to Connecticut for engraving also had Ohio plates. Remember, that was when you said you toured the Winchester factory?... well after it had already been permanently shut down. Later, after someone called you out on that B.S., you changed your story, and said you merely walked around the outside of the closed building. Does Indiana DMV really issue Ohio plates?

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^^^^^^ I'm sorry, but, whoever you are, I am ignoring you. ^^^^^^^ You have made too many stupid remarks in the past and cause to many problems for others to read anything from you anymore. And it isn't fair for the intelligent, decent people on here to take up their time arguing with you and ruining this website for them. But, you have nice day.

One other question DimmyW... If you really had John Roberts (and me) on IGNORE, then how could you see our Posts to then reply and tell us you are IGNORING us? It appears that the IGNORE function doesn't work for you any better than it does for the Nutty Professor. Covering your eyes with estrogen patches isn't going to help either of you transition if you keep removing them to peek at what you both claim to IGNORE.

Here's another tip: repeatedly editing your posts to remove shit you just made up doesn't work too well after you've been busted. And responding to things you claim you don't see makes you look like a fool. But that never stopped you.


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^^^^^^^^^^I'm sorry, but whoever you are I won't respond to your post, because I have you on ignore and I won't read what you say or comment.^^^^^^^^^^ But, have a nice day anyway. 😊

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Guess I told them a thing or two. 🤐

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