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Alright, nix the thought of anything to do w/ Bochumer Verein. And forget the J.P. Sauer might have been made in West Germany as there is a TW notes originating @ the Thälmann Werke(VEB)-GDR facility in Suhl. The adornment and engraving on the GDR Vormals J.P. Sauer was by Guenter Helmuthhäuser.
The use of the 4 Ringe Gewehr Lauf Stahl was an attempt to deceive the end user was getting tubes of the same Quality as the coveted 3 Ringe Gewehr Lauf Stahl by Krupp. 4 Ringe Special Gewehr Lauf Stahl - Gewehrlaufstahl was actually made @ Edelstahlwerk Freital and sourced from Edelstahlwerk Freital. So that is the word from the authority in Suhl.
>>ESW<< denotes Edelstahwerek.
>>BGH - Freital Edelstahl<< supplied steel to Ernst Thälmann Werke and other mechanics in Suhl.
Hochachtungsvoll,
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Evidently, the switch from Krupp Steel or Böhler Steel to Edelstahlwerk Freital 4 Ringe Gewehr Lauf Stahl / 4 Ring Weapons Grade Barrel Steel was all due to economics. East Germany had a shortage of foreign currency and had to source inland. Scrap Metal quality varied vastly and there was a dip in quality and everyone including the end user was forced to embrace the change. This is exactly the reason that many German Collectors give a hard knock on GDR weapons platforms.
Merkel may have been the exception and was not under the Ernst Thalmann Werke umbrella and was able to negotiate their barrel steel?
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I believe the term "INNENHARTVERCHROMT" means the bore was hard chrome plated rather than a chrome component in the steel. Mike
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Could be Ford, could easily be.
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