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Sent Dave a check. Dont use Paypal. They are anti gun. I dont feed my enemies. But why did I? I ask myself that almost every time I open a post.

Why is it always a Big Richard contest? I ask a question in a post, get a few good responses and it seems to always devolve into several of the "experts" trying to show the other "experts" they know more than the other "experts". Its school yard BS. It appears that way in many posts.
When I read an interesting post, I want to read the responses that address the post. not the personal pissing contests. Some of the behavior on here makes me question how some of the "experts" are even allowed to possess firearms based on some the responses, threats, aspersions, insults, arguments, attacks, etc. that i see.
About all that I have seen missing is someone saying the others mother wears Army boots!

just my .02.


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There are issues that bear directly on the sport that might need discussion - lead shot, gun ownership laws, import shipping regulations, etc. And Dave working pretty much by himself has historically permitted a free swinging environment. But we can individually try to keep the politics as much as possible out of this site or at least the personal attacks. We can try have one community dedicated to a hobby we all love. It won't be perfect. That's of course kumbaya..with our frontier bunch who want to say what's on their mind. That's understandable too. But it's a personal choice. Gene

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Originally Posted by Brian
Sent Dave a check. Dont use Paypal. They are anti gun. I dont feed my enemies. But why did I? I ask myself that almost every time I open a post....

Paypal is known to be anti-gun... but at least Paypal is not registered to vote.

On the other hand, quite a few gun owners are registered to vote, and a good number of them (many right here) support and vote for known anti-gun Democrats.

You apparently support the NRA and other pro-gun organizations, while some of your fellow gun owners undermine the efforts of the NRA by voting for anti-gun Democrats. It's as ignorant as hiring a pedophile to babysit your kids. However, some folks actually think the solution to this is censoring it and refraining from even mentioning it:

Originally Posted by Argo44
There are issues that bear directly on the sport that might need discussion - lead shot, gun ownership laws, import shipping regulations, etc. And Dave working pretty much by himself has historically permitted a free swinging environment. But we can individually try to keep the politics as much as possible out of this site or at least the personal attacks. We can try have one community dedicated to a hobby we all love. It won't be perfect. That's of course kumbaya..with our frontier bunch who want to say what's on their mind. That's understandable too. But it's a personal choice. Gene

I seriously don't care whether anyones' mother wears Army boots. But if those "mothers" own guns and also vote for anti-gunners... then they are stabbing those who care about the 2nd Amendment in the back.

That is not "Kumbaya". That's not "one community dedicated to a hobby we all love." That is just as bad or worse than PayPal... supporting anti-gunners and feeding our enemies.

Not that hard to grasp, but very hard for some to swallow.


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What I have learned over the years is just use the Private Message feature. If you have a question or inquiry about a subject, just send a PM to a member whose opinion you value. You get an answer or information without the inevitable silliness or hijacking.

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It's pretty simple for me. As long as I get more pleasure out of the site than displeasure, and I'm learning and helping others in some few ways, I'll stick around. And, if I stick around I will pay my way and not be a freeloader.

As for the unpleasantness here . . . . well, I've waded through some pretty bad mud and swamp to get to a good duck hole. And, when I have looked back at those experiences, I said to myself, "The gain was worth the pain".

I see most people as fitting into one of three categories: pessimistic, stoic, or optimistic. I'm in the "the glass if half full" bunch.


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Use the ignore feature. My use of it has greatly reduced the number of political posts I see.


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Originally Posted by Brian
Sent Dave a check. Dont use Paypal. They are anti gun. I dont feed my enemies. But why did I? I ask myself that almost every time I open a post.

Why is it always a Big Richard contest? I ask a question in a post, get a few good responses and it seems to always devolve into several of the "experts" trying to show the other "experts" they know more than the other "experts". Its school yard BS. It appears that way in many posts.
When I read an interesting post, I want to read the responses that address the post. not the personal pissing contests. Some of the behavior on here makes me question how some of the "experts" are even allowed to possess firearms based on some the responses, threats, aspersions, insults, arguments, attacks, etc. that i see.
About all that I have seen missing is someone saying the others mother wears Army boots!

just my .02.

So, literally, this is your biggest problem at the moment? You don’t know anybody about to clock out from a cancer diagnosis they got a few months past (I do). Don’t have a relative younger than you that has lost their mobility because diabetes took their legs, and they will spend the rest of their days looking at the ceiling of the room they are stuck in (I do). Don’t know a guy at work whose 18 year old nephew threw himself off a building to his death, unable to cope with this thing called life (I do).

You are former military. Suck it up. Be there for somebody. Understand humor, and understand the shack nasties are real for a lot of old guys. It will go away in the spring. It always does. Give to Dave. Give to your church, and maybe to a few other boards or worthy organizations. Realize first world problems are often silly compared to real problems, and allow yourself to get past that.

Smile. Breath. Be productive. Be of good cheer.

Good to see you figured out how to get past your enemy and donate to Dave. Did you use the address I put up for you to send it to?

Mother wears army boots? My mom was a navy diver. Wanted to be in the UDTs, but, they wouldn’t let her. A navy captain convinced her to learn to weld because he could find 100 guys to blow shit up underwater for every one who could weld blown up shit back together underwater. My dad walked into a bar in Subic Bay and found her with some drunken squid, who wouldn’t leave her alone, in a head lock, beating his face into the bar.

He convinced her to let him go, bought her a drink, got her unit number, and fell into 60 years worth of jarhead love. Thank God he outranked her.

I assume she had boots on at the time. But, I never asked. I miss mom, and I miss the way she could light a smoke, knock her welding helmet down, and run a flawless bead of TIG or Heliarc wearing a flowered muumuu and slippers.

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Originally Posted by Ted Schefelbein
Originally Posted by Brian
Sent Dave a check. Dont use Paypal. They are anti gun. I dont feed my enemies. But why did I? I ask myself that almost every time I open a post.

Why is it always a Big Richard contest? I ask a question in a post, get a few good responses and it seems to always devolve into several of the "experts" trying to show the other "experts" they know more than the other "experts". Its school yard BS. It appears that way in many posts.
When I read an interesting post, I want to read the responses that address the post. not the personal pissing contests. Some of the behavior on here makes me question how some of the "experts" are even allowed to possess firearms based on some the responses, threats, aspersions, insults, arguments, attacks, etc. that i see.
About all that I have seen missing is someone saying the others mother wears Army boots!

just my .02.

So, literally, this is your biggest problem at the moment? You don’t know anybody about to clock out from a cancer diagnosis they got a few months past (I do). Don’t have a relative younger than you that has lost their mobility because diabetes took their legs, and they will spend the rest of their days looking at the ceiling of the room they are stuck in (I do). Don’t know a guy at work whose 18 year old nephew threw himself off a building to his death, unable to cope with this thing called life (I do).

You are former military. Suck it up. Be there for somebody. Understand humor, and understand the shack nasties are real for a lot of old guys. It will go away in the spring. It always does. Give to Dave. Give to your church, and maybe to a few other boards or worthy organizations. Realize first world problems are often silly compared to real problems, and allow yourself to get past that.

Smile. Breath. Be productive. Be of good cheer.

Good to see you figured out how to get past your enemy and donate to Dave. Did you use the address I put up for you to send it to?

Mother wears army boots? My mom was a navy diver. Wanted to be in the UDTs, but, they wouldn’t let her. A navy captain convinced her to learn to weld because he could find 100 guys to blow shit up underwater for every one who could weld blown up shit back together underwater. My dad walked into a bar in Subic Bay and found her with some drunken squid, who wouldn’t leave her alone, in a head lock, beating his face into the bar.

He convinced her to let him go, bought her a drink, got her unit number, and fell into 60 years worth of jarhead love. Thank God he outranked her.

I assume she had boots on at the time. But, I never asked. I miss mom, and I miss the way she could light a smoke, knock her welding helmet down, and run a flawless bead of TIG or Heliarc wearing a flowered muumuu and slippers.

Best,
Ted

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Originally Posted by Stanton Hillis
It's pretty simple for me. As long as I get more pleasure out of the site than displeasure, and I'm learning and helping others in some few ways, I'll stick around. And, if I stick around I will pay my way and not be a freeloader.

As for the unpleasantness here . . . . well, I've waded through some pretty bad mud and swamp to get to a good duck hole. And, when I have looked back at those experiences, I said to myself, "The gain was worth the pain".

I see most people as fitting into one of three categories: pessimistic, stoic, or optimistic. I'm in the "the glass if half full" bunch.

A guy with with 14,274 posts Should Pay His Way. I got one question for you. You being a Farmer, how the hell do you find the time to post 14,274 times.

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Originally Posted by dirty harry
Originally Posted by Stanton Hillis
It's pretty simple for me. As long as I get more pleasure out of the site than displeasure, and I'm learning and helping others in some few ways, I'll stick around. And, if I stick around I will pay my way and not be a freeloader.

As for the unpleasantness here . . . . well, I've waded through some pretty bad mud and swamp to get to a good duck hole. And, when I have looked back at those experiences, I said to myself, "The gain was worth the pain".

I see most people as fitting into one of three categories: pessimistic, stoic, or optimistic. I'm in the "the glass if half full" bunch.

A guy with with 14,274 posts Should Pay His Way. I got one question for you. You being a Farmer, how the hell do you find the time to post 14,274 times.

Dirty Harry
He’s been here 24 years, Not difficult for a true enthusiast…
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Originally Posted by dirty harry
Originally Posted by Stanton Hillis
It's pretty simple for me. As long as I get more pleasure out of the site than displeasure, and I'm learning and helping others in some few ways, I'll stick around. And, if I stick around I will pay my way and not be a freeloader.

As for the unpleasantness here . . . . well, I've waded through some pretty bad mud and swamp to get to a good duck hole. And, when I have looked back at those experiences, I said to myself, "The gain was worth the pain".

I see most people as fitting into one of three categories: pessimistic, stoic, or optimistic. I'm in the "the glass if half full" bunch.

A guy with with 14,274 posts Should Pay His Way. I got one question for you. You being a Farmer, how the hell do you find the time to post 14,274 times.

Dirty Harry

It's pretty obvious that your perception af what being a farmer today is like, is not in keeping with my lifestyle or how I farm. I get up pretty early each day and begin it with coffee, Scripture reading and prayer. After that, I check in here, the AHFCA site, and the Parker site. Doesn't take that long to read or post a couple things as needed while I knock back my last cup of "jo".

This time of year I'm driving a tractor, tilling land in preparation for planting corn, then peanuts. Long days on a tractor alone are made much less tiresome by having a smart phone to stay in touch with my son and grandson as they drive tractors too, and to pass the time keeping up with my friends on this site and the others. Our primary work tractors have GPS enabled auto-steer. We program it when we start in a field, lay out a line on the screen, and the tractor drives itself from one end of the field to the other holding itself in parallel swaths that are accurate within less than an inch. We have to disable the system by moving the steering or tapping a brake before turning on the end, but once we are on course again and the auto-steer is engaged you can't touch the steering wheel. So, I read posts on here and the other sites until I get bored with it. Then, I may bluetooth my phone to the speakers in the tractor and play one of my Spotify playlists. We're not hayseeds posing for a picture in overalls and a pitchfork, not that there's anything wrong with that, it's just not my style of farming.

14,274 divided by 24, divided by 365 = about 1.6 posts per day. I don't see what's so hard to comprehend about that. Now, I have explained it to to you, but I cannot understand it for you. Do your best.

FYI, I have so many interests that I enjoy, that I really never do get bored. I shoot pool with a passion, I hunt, I fish occasionally, I work on my shotguns in my gunroom, I'm a deacon in my church, and I lead an adult Bible School class each Sunday morning. My daddy always said that "If you want to get a job done on time, go to the busiest man around and get him to do it." I try to be that man.


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There’s a lot to like in that post, Stanton.

(And farming sure is different from when I sat on the spring steel “lazy U” seat of the old Ford Ferguson as a kid.)

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Originally Posted by Brian
Sent Dave a check. Dont use Paypal. They are anti gun. I dont feed my enemies. But why did I? I ask myself that almost every time I open a post.

Why is it always a Big Richard contest? I ask a question in a post, get a few good responses and it seems to always devolve into several of the "experts" trying to show the other "experts" they know more than the other "experts". Its school yard BS. It appears that way in many posts.
When I read an interesting post, I want to read the responses that address the post. not the personal pissing contests. Some of the behavior on here makes me question how some of the "experts" are even allowed to possess firearms based on some the responses, threats, aspersions, insults, arguments, attacks, etc. that i see.
About all that I have seen missing is someone saying the others mother wears Army boots!

just my .02.


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It sounds like you've got the best of all worlds going there for you there Mr. Hillis.

I also suspect that an adult bible school being taught by yourself would be deeply relevant to my views of life in this troubled world today (I struggle a bit in the class taught in our own little house of worship [& that's my fault, not the Rectors]).

I would guess that you will be going a long-way on that particular schedule.

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Dang Stanton. I'm not a farmer. But every year from the time I was six until about 10 my Mom would ship me and twin-brother to southern Illinois to stay with my biological grandfather. He had a farm outside of West Frankfurt. I remember the roller squeegee on the washing machine where my step-grandmother would wring the water out of the clothes and the 100 degree dry heat and the wheat.

But my Great grandfather also lived on 80 acres just outside of Thompsonville. He was born in 1868, married in 1890 and farmed the same farm until the day he died in 1965. He and my great grandmother built the house and barn themselves and made pretty much all the furniture out of spools and the rugs. There was no electricity or running water except by about 1952 an outlet for a refrigerator and stove in the kitchen. The outhouse had a Sears Roebuck catalog in it for obvious reasons. The tractor didn't work but he had two horses Ted and Jim which were the biggest horses I've ever seen. They had no money; made their own butter; ate their own eggs that I had to gather. The house was lit by oil lamps and I, a southern boy, was terrified at the stories of tornadoes. Once he got angry at all of us and ran us off holding a shotgun (don't know the make).

Somehow, your farm doesn't sound like that.

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Originally Posted by dirty harry
Originally Posted by Stanton Hillis
It's pretty simple for me. As long as I get more pleasure out of the site than displeasure, and I'm learning and helping others in some few ways, I'll stick around. And, if I stick around I will pay my way and not be a freeloader.

As for the unpleasantness here . . . . well, I've waded through some pretty bad mud and swamp to get to a good duck hole. And, when I have looked back at those experiences, I said to myself, "The gain was worth the pain".

I see most people as fitting into one of three categories: pessimistic, stoic, or optimistic. I'm in the "the glass if half full" bunch.

A guy with with 14,274 posts Should Pay His Way. I got one question for you. You being a Farmer, how the hell do you find the time to post 14,274 times.

Dirty Harry

Congrats Stan, on sticking for the long haul. I may have it wrong, but I seem to recall that the person who started this thread, had an opinion or two on social, political issues at one time. Things change, oh well.

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Originally Posted by Chantry
Use the ignore feature. My use of it has greatly reduced the number of political posts I see.

I'm glad you mentioned that. I didn't know there was an ignore until you mentioned it, then I went looking for it and found it.


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Stan,
If you have a grandson running a tractor, it won't be that long before you have a great grandson running it. Don't close your eyes. Those really will be precious memories.
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Originally Posted by Stanton Hillis
Originally Posted by dirty harry
Originally Posted by Stanton Hillis
It's pretty simple for me. As long as I get more pleasure out of the site than displeasure, and I'm learning and helping others in some few ways, I'll stick around. And, if I stick around I will pay my way and not be a freeloader.

As for the unpleasantness here . . . . well, I've waded through some pretty bad mud and swamp to get to a good duck hole. And, when I have looked back at those experiences, I said to myself, "The gain was worth the pain".

I see most people as fitting into one of three categories: pessimistic, stoic, or optimistic. I'm in the "the glass if half full" bunch.

A guy with with 14,274 posts Should Pay His Way. I got one question for you. You being a Farmer, how the hell do you find the time to post 14,274 times.

Dirty Harry

It's pretty obvious that your perception af what being a farmer today is like, is not in keeping with my lifestyle or how I farm. I get up pretty early each day and begin it with coffee, Scripture reading and prayer. After that, I check in here, the AHFCA site, and the Parker site. Doesn't take that long to read or post a couple things as needed while I knock back my last cup of "jo".

This time of year I'm driving a tractor, tilling land in preparation for planting corn, then peanuts. Long days on a tractor alone are made much less tiresome by having a smart phone to stay in touch with my son and grandson as they drive tractors too, and to pass the time keeping up with my friends on this site and the others. Our primary work tractors have GPS enabled auto-steer. We program it when we start in a field, lay out a line on the screen, and the tractor drives itself from one end of the field to the other holding itself in parallel swaths that are accurate within less than an inch. We have to disable the system by moving the steering or tapping a brake before turning on the end, but once we are on course again and the auto-steer is engaged you can't touch the steering wheel. So, I read posts on here and the other sites until I get bored with it. Then, I may bluetooth my phone to the speakers in the tractor and play one of my Spotify playlists. We're not hayseeds posing for a picture in overalls and a pitchfork, not that there's anything wrong with that, it's just not my style of farming.

14,274 divided by 24, divided by 365 = about 1.6 posts per day. I don't see what's so hard to comprehend about that. Now, I have explained it to to you, but I cannot understand it for you. Do your best.

FYI, I have so many interests that I enjoy, that I really never do get bored. I shoot pool with a passion, I hunt, I fish occasionally, I work on my shotguns in my gunroom, I'm a deacon in my church, and I lead an adult Bible School class each Sunday morning. My daddy always said that "If you want to get a job done on time, go to the busiest man around and get him to do it." I try to be that man.


Thanks for replying to my question Stan, most guys would of had a ''wise'' come back answer, You are a ''True Gentleman''.

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Originally Posted by sharps4590
Originally Posted by Chantry
Use the ignore feature. My use of it has greatly reduced the number of political posts I see.

I'm glad you mentioned that. I didn't know there was an ignore until you mentioned it, then I went looking for it and found it.

The IGNORE function doesn't work anyhow. Virtually all of the people who use it have high estrogen levels, support anti-gun Democrats, and just can't resist peeking.

Next thing you know, you'll see them replying to, or complaining about things posted by guys they claim to IGNORE. It's one of the more amusing things you'll see here...


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