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Thanks, but that's not something I need or want.

FWIW, I know bunches of Democrats who are staunch 2A supporters, and even more independents who are.



The independents I get, but how do Democrats staunchly support the Second Amendment? When the representative they elected votes in favor of gun control legislation, do they file petitions to have that representative recalled? When the ATF enacts restrictive new rules on firearms, or an anti-gun leftist is nominated to the Supreme Court, do they call for the presidents impeachment? Do they vote for Trump, because they know Harris and Clinton have no respect for the second amendment? I'm missing something here.

In the end, the only thing that matters, is who you send to Washington or your state capitol, everything else is blowing smoke. You can beat your chest and shout your support through a megaphone, but you're only fooling yourself and other like-minded Democrats. You might as well be marching in a parade led by a bunch of Muslim malcontents, carrying a banner proclaiming "Jews for Palestine" or "gays for Palestine". I suspect that you(?) and all the other 2A Democrats will continue on in this charade, as long as enough Republicans keep getting sent to Washington to insulate you from the consequences of your poor decisions.

Tim, there is an inconsistency there that they are not seeing, or admitting. IMO, some people have voted Democratic for so long that it's like they are stuck in a rut that they are unwilling to remove themselves from. They are so used to defending the Democratic platforms, they can't imagine doing anything else.

The Democratic party is not what it was in our grandparents' day. It has devolved to the extent that it is unrecognizable to some of us, but yet some remain staunchly loyal to it. I liken it to a mother who continues to love AND SUPPORT her child who has gone "AWOL" and now lives in a way totally alien to how it was raised.

But, loving what used to be is a terrible excuse for owning up to the reality that your child has gone bad, and it needs to be accepted as the bad seed it has become. The Democratic party has devolved into a bad seed. What it's "parents" have done is make excuses for it, to the point that it is now ridiculous to the sane.

Patriots can only hope and pray that, given enough rope, it will hang itself.

I am not a Democrat.

...as for how 2A Democrats and independents support 2A...neither you, nor I get to decide what they are doing is wrong if it doesn't align with what we are doing and/or believe.

No one is just one thing, and almost nothing is binary, despite attempts by politicians, media and others to describe it thus.

Lots of truth there.

I don't know if anyone comments, because they think they are deciding about anything, but there is a partial component to some of our freedoms. All that matters is the track record and results of those who get voted it to policy making positions, and it is easy to see wrong.

It is always the same, so and so is a staunch 2A supporter. Why, because they are one of the good ones at the banquet, where we are all in for a common cause. Change banquet to diner, pickup tailgate, fishing boat, it does not matter.

Sweetie pie, let's reset that thought. When have I ever thought my opinion needs to align with any other. My opinion matters to me.

I know what you like and don't like, why should it matter to me, other than to widen the divide. You never have workable solutions, but I do know who you dislike.

You certainly are missing something Tim, maybe more than one thing. I staunchly support the 2A, but it is the whole constitution that I really cherish, picking an choosing which parts of the constitution to support just doesn't sound that patriotic to me. I believe in checks and balances, holding accountable those that try to illegally influence our elections, and having an executive that understands and respects the limit of his position in our government.

The idea that your opinion of how another American votes matters is contradictory to very premise of the founding of our Republic, you get your vote but so do the Jews for Palestine folks.

The charade is that somehow your opinion is the only one that matters and that other viewpoints are inherently wrong. Maybe a brush up civics class would help you to understand how a representative democracy works, you certainly appear deeply confused.

Oh Sunshine(Craig), so good of you to clear that up for us.

Here I had thought your years of pontification were an attempt to convince others of your way of thought. I had no idea that you were just talking to yourself out loud

Tell me Sunshine, who do you love?

Big hug time?

At the Federal level there are some pro-gun Democrats, mostly in some of the Southern states and along the border with Canada. Former Montana Senator Jon Tester (D) was pro gun.

At the state level there are Democrats that are pro gun. Connecticut has some, enough to prevent some of the more drastic bills from being passed.

There are people out there, Democrat, Republican and Independent who are nominally pro gun, but that's not their priority during an election. There are also those out there willing to accept restrictions on fire arms, they don't own, will never own and don't like.

And arguing on an internet forum isn't going to change anyone's mind.

If you don't agree with them, ignore or hide them and don't do business with them.