CZ: I sort-of figured the physical conditioning thing would get the first comment, and while I wholly agree...I'd love to be 35lbs lighter and 20-years younger (who wouldn't), but...grouse hunting (both forests and plains) requires several things to line up if you wish to be successful, the gun, the hunter, and the circumstances. For many (if not most of us) you must play the cards you've been dealt.

I'm faster with a 6lb gun, I just am and I can walk further with said 6lb gun without much fatigue. As the weights climb, the downsides begin to show up. My 16 brummy BLE is actually 5lbs14, my lightest hammer gun is 6lbs5 and I can tell the difference at the end of the day.

Surely I'm not the only one here that is able to make that sort of distinction?

Last edited by Lloyd3; 03/12/26 07:21 PM.