I wasn't referring to grouse, Ted, but clay targets. I was referencing Mike's post above mine which included "I shot sporting with my 1897 Joseph Lang pigeon gun . . . ."

And "Targets that were far were easy kills but when it came to the close stuff it was harder to stop those 32's from swinging through."

No mention by Mike of grouse, but all about clay targets on a sporting course.

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