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I was only commenting on the video, Stan. I believe he makes the point that while the 25” gun is more difficult to shoot well at clays, that doesn’t make it impossible.

My thought was he made a passable clays gun out of the Sable. We all know it would be a passable or better bird gun. Don’t know that you could do that with the big O/U with the chokes sticking out the ends of the barrels. Those motorized carts I see at the club, carrying big guns and big old dudes to the next station are there for a reason. The only hunting will be for an adult beverage once the gun is put away.

Best,
Ted

Oh, I understand what you meant now.

The whole idea of making a passable anything out of a gun that might be better suited for something else is just alien to me. I try to acquire the best gun for the purpose at hand. I think I have done a pretty good job of that, over time.

I tried hard to make a competitive sporting gun out of my 32" AH Fox A grade. But, it has a straight hand buttstock and that sealed it's doom for me, for competitive clays. I shoot the pistol grip 30" BSS way better. I'll likely be selling that A grade, for that reason.

If Perazzi, Beretta, Krieghoff, et al thought they could make more money selling short barrels, they would give their sponsored guys and gals 28” tubes and some slick marketing and everyone else would fall into line.

Funny thing, back in the 60's most pigeon guns had 28" tubes. Some that came from Europe had 27" barrels. Now it seems since the trend of longer and longer barrels has come to fashion no one wants to remember when the shorter barrels did just fine.

Can you prove that first statement? I have a copy of Cyril Adams's excellent book, Live Pigeon Trap Shooting which I read a few years ago. Before I dig it out and reread the chapter on guns I'd like to hear why you think that.

I'd also really like to hear what Paul Melton would have to say about that. He is the most prolific pigeon shooter I am aware of, and has been successful at it for a long time.

I see lots of guns for sale listed as pigeon guns with 28" barrels. Especially Fabri's

Here you go

https://www.gunsinternational.com/g...ri-extra-sxs-12-ga-.cfm?gun_id=103437091

Am I supposed to understand that you are basing your opinion that pigeon guns in the 60s were predominantly 28" barreled on that one advertisement, or on what you see advertised for sale?

No historical evidence to support that? Only advertising?

OK here is another. Do you want me to keep going?

https://www.gunsinternational.com/g...ri-extra-sxs-12-ga-.cfm?gun_id=103437091

I shoot pigeons and Helice with three guns, a 1906 Purdey with 30" barrels, a 1911 Purdey hammer gun with 30" barrels and a Perazzi SC3 with 31" barrels.
I have seen plenty of pigeon guns with shorter barrels.