Originally Posted by keith
Originally Posted by Stanton Hillis
Originally Posted by ed good
an as for repairin dim packers or any udder double gon havin a loose or disconnected breech block...

1. pack the barrels with Brownells heat sink paste, to protect whatever is holding the barrels together...

2. tin the barrels and breech block with lead/tin solder...

3. clamp it...

4. heat with propane torch? and solder it awl back together...

5. if this works, re blue barrels to make it look good...

6. if this don't work, try the opposite...

space age epoxy, that only works when frozen...

That may actually be the most useless post I have ever read. "If this don't work".

Did you get that from Master Gunsmith Ed Lander?

Here's yet another Post I made a couple days ago that didn't get Posted. I don't know if it was censored or if it was lost in cyberspace. I suppose the server could have crashed when I sent it because it was overwhelmed with all of DimmyW's recent Posts. It sure didn't crash due to a bunch of Parker Repros with failed barrel lumps being uploaded.

But anyhow Stan, I don't think Ed's recommendation of repairing this Parker Repro is the most useless Post. Soldering a barrel lump back on with tin/lead solder would not be my choice for this repair. But 67/33 eutectic tin/lead solder has a tensile strength of around 8000 lbs./sq. in. So it might actually hold for a little while even though that isn't near as strong as a good braze joint. Someone here used to maintain that a shotgun breech could be held closed by hand during firing without any bolting. Not sure I'd want to test that either. I don't know of any space age epoxy that only works when frozen, but I recall a Thread from Ghostrider where he suggested repairing badly pitted barrels by lining them with epoxy. I think that was far worse an idea than Ed's.

But when it comes to "Most Useless Post Ever", I'd bet both ClapperZapper and Princess Stevie are saying, "Hold my Beer!"

Just look at their recent Posts in Woodreaux's "Breech Face Question" Thread. Princess Stevie looked at it and said this:

Originally Posted by SKB
That may be an older method of deactivating a gun, I'm not sure, but that is what I think it is. I have seen deactivated guns(and repaired one) that were drilled through the chamber as a method of deactivation.

Can you believe that someone who claims to be a real gunsmith actually saw those holes as an older method of deactivating a gun?

And ClapperZapper looked at the same gun that obviously did not ever have any external hammers or any sign of filling in grooves or channels for a Pinfire pin, and he said this:

Originally Posted by ClapperZapper
Converted pinfire.

There are lots of old guns that have that vertical breech weld.
One of the shotgun magazines did an article about the guns that were converted
When regular commercial prepared cartridge just came along, there were a great number of wonderful guns that received an upgrade.

At least that’s what I think it is.
Originally Posted by keith
Originally Posted by Stanton Hillis
Originally Posted by ed good
an as for repairin dim packers or any udder double gon havin a loose or disconnected breech block...

1. pack the barrels with Brownells heat sink paste, to protect whatever is holding the barrels together...

2. tin the barrels and breech block with lead/tin solder...

3. clamp it...

4. heat with propane torch? and solder it awl back together...

5. if this works, re blue barrels to make it look good...

6. if this don't work, try the opposite...

space age epoxy, that only works when frozen...

That may actually be the most useless post I have ever read. "If this don't work".

Did you get that from Master Gunsmith Ed Lander?

Here's yet another Post I made a couple days ago that didn't get Posted. I don't know if it was censored or if it was lost in cyberspace. I suppose the server could have crashed when I sent it because it was overwhelmed with all of DimmyW's recent Posts. It sure didn't crash due to a bunch of Parker Repros with failed barrel lumps being uploaded.

But anyhow Stan, I don't think Ed's recommendation of repairing this Parker Repro is the most useless Post. Soldering a barrel lump back on with tin/lead solder would not be my choice for this repair. But 67/33 eutectic tin/lead solder has a tensile strength of around 8000 lbs./sq. in. So it might actually hold for a little while even though that isn't near as strong as a good braze joint. Someone here used to maintain that a shotgun breech could be held closed by hand during firing without any bolting. Not sure I'd want to test that either. I don't know of any space age epoxy that only works when frozen, but I recall a Thread from Ghostrider where he suggested repairing badly pitted barrels by lining them with epoxy. I think that was far worse an idea than Ed's.

But when it comes to "Most Useless Post Ever", I'd bet both ClapperZapper and Princess Stevie are saying, "Hold my Beer!"

Just look at their recent Posts in Woodreaux's "Breech Face Question" Thread. Princess Stevie looked at it and said this:

Originally Posted by SKB
That may be an older method of deactivating a gun, I'm not sure, but that is what I think it is. I have seen deactivated guns(and repaired one) that were drilled through the chamber as a method of deactivation.

Can you believe that someone who claims to be a real gunsmith actually saw those holes as an older method of deactivating a gun?

And ClapperZapper looked at the same gun that obviously did not ever have any external hammers or any sign of filling in grooves or channels for a Pinfire pin, and he said this:

Originally Posted by ClapperZapper
Converted pinfire.

There are lots of old guns that have that vertical breech weld.
One of the shotgun magazines did an article about the guns that were converted
When regular commercial prepared cartridge just came along, there were a great number of wonderful guns that received an upgrade.

At least that’s what I think it is.
Originally Posted by keith
Originally Posted by Stanton Hillis
Originally Posted by ed good
an as for repairin dim packers or any udder double gon havin a loose or disconnected breech block...

1. pack the barrels with Brownells heat sink paste, to protect whatever is holding the barrels together...

2. tin the barrels and breech block with lead/tin solder...

3. clamp it...

4. heat with propane torch? and solder it awl back together...

5. if this works, re blue barrels to make it look good...

6. if this don't work, try the opposite...

space age epoxy, that only works when frozen...

That may actually be the most useless post I have ever read. "If this don't work".

Did you get that from Master Gunsmith Ed Lander?

Here's yet another Post I made a couple days ago that didn't get Posted. I don't know if it was censored or if it was lost in cyberspace. I suppose the server could have crashed when I sent it because it was overwhelmed with all of DimmyW's recent Posts. It sure didn't crash due to a bunch of Parker Repros with failed barrel lumps being uploaded.

But anyhow Stan, I don't think Ed's recommendation of repairing this Parker Repro is the most useless Post. Soldering a barrel lump back on with tin/lead solder would not be my choice for this repair. But 67/33 eutectic tin/lead solder has a tensile strength of around 8000 lbs./sq. in. So it might actually hold for a little while even though that isn't near as strong as a good braze joint. Someone here used to maintain that a shotgun breech could be held closed by hand during firing without any bolting. Not sure I'd want to test that either. I don't know of any space age epoxy that only works when frozen, but I recall a Thread from Ghostrider where he suggested repairing badly pitted barrels by lining them with epoxy. I think that was far worse an idea than Ed's.

But when it comes to "Most Useless Post Ever", I'd bet both ClapperZapper and Princess Stevie are saying, "Hold my Beer!"

Just look at their recent Posts in Woodreaux's "Breech Face Question" Thread. Princess Stevie looked at it and said this:

Originally Posted by SKB
That may be an older method of deactivating a gun, I'm not sure, but that is what I think it is. I have seen deactivated guns(and repaired one) that were drilled through the chamber as a method of deactivation.

Can you believe that someone who claims to be a real gunsmith actually saw those holes as an older method of deactivating a gun?

And ClapperZapper looked at the same gun that obviously did not ever have any external hammers or any sign of filling in grooves or channels for a Pinfire pin, and he said this:

Originally Posted by ClapperZapper
Converted pinfire.

There are lots of old guns that have that vertical breech weld.
One of the shotgun magazines did an article about the guns that were converted
When regular commercial prepared cartridge just came along, there were a great number of wonderful guns that received an upgrade.

At least that’s what I think it is.

In reference to what I actually stated back in December of 2020.

I think the idea has some merit. I spent my career in the aerospace service industry and was tasked with finding safe and economical repairs due to design issues, corrosion, failures, etc.
I wouldn�t dismiss the possibility of using some of the latest super epoxies or other products that have come out in just the past few years.
I have also thought of repair ideas that might be used to repair barrel corrosion and pitting.
We repaired some high dollar landing gear struts that had internal corrosion by machining the internal barrel of the strut and have the barrel chromed. Could this be done on a shotgun barrel? I�m not sure.

Could a thin metal sleeve be hydroformed inside the barrel after back boring? Not sure.
Could a barrel be back bored and then heat the barrel in an oven, super cool the sleeve using methanol and dry ice then press the sleeve in for a interference fit? No bonding agent needed possibly eliminating the issues Teague experienced.
Wouldn�t resolve the issue of making a dent non repairable but if you had a unserviceable barrel to begin with you got more time out of the barrel then you would have in the pitted state you are ahead of the game.

Last edited by Ghostrider; 04/27/26 05:16 AM.