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Originally Posted by Stanton Hillis
Originally Posted by ed good
an as for repairin dim packers or any udder double gon havin a loose or disconnected breech block...

1. pack the barrels with Brownells heat sink paste, to protect whatever is holding the barrels together...

2. tin the barrels and breech block with lead/tin solder...

3. clamp it...

4. heat with propane torch? and solder it awl back together...

5. if this works, re blue barrels to make it look good...

6. if this don't work, try the opposite...

space age epoxy, that only works when frozen...

That may actually be the most useless post I have ever read. "If this don't work".

Did you get that from Master Gunsmith Ed Lander?

Here's yet another Post I made a couple days ago that didn't get Posted. I don't know if it was censored or if it was lost in cyberspace. I suppose the server could have crashed when I sent it because it was overwhelmed with all of DimmyW's recent Posts. It sure didn't crash due to a bunch of Parker Repros with failed barrel lumps being uploaded.

But anyhow Stan, I don't think Ed's recommendation of repairing this Parker Repro is the most useless Post. Soldering a barrel lump back on with tin/lead solder would not be my choice for this repair. But 67/33 eutectic tin/lead solder has a tensile strength of around 8000 lbs./sq. in. So it might actually hold for a little while even though that isn't near as strong as a good braze joint. Someone here used to maintain that a shotgun breech could be held closed by hand during firing without any bolting. Not sure I'd want to test that either. I don't know of any space age epoxy that only works when frozen, but I recall a Thread from Ghostrider where he suggested repairing badly pitted barrels by lining them with epoxy. I think that was far worse an idea than Ed's.

But when it comes to "Most Useless Post Ever", I'd bet both ClapperZapper and Princess Stevie are saying, "Hold my Beer!"

Just look at their recent Posts in Woodreaux's "Breech Face Question" Thread. Princess Stevie looked at it and said this:

Originally Posted by SKB
That may be an older method of deactivating a gun, I'm not sure, but that is what I think it is. I have seen deactivated guns(and repaired one) that were drilled through the chamber as a method of deactivation.

Can you believe that someone who claims to be a real gunsmith actually saw those holes as an older method of deactivating a gun?

And ClapperZapper looked at the same gun that obviously did not ever have any external hammers or any sign of filling in grooves or channels for a Pinfire pin, and he said this:

Originally Posted by ClapperZapper
Converted pinfire.

There are lots of old guns that have that vertical breech weld.
One of the shotgun magazines did an article about the guns that were converted
When regular commercial prepared cartridge just came along, there were a great number of wonderful guns that received an upgrade.

At least that’s what I think it is.


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^^^I don't know who posted this post above me^^^ because I have them on ignore, but I just wanted to say that I would think that Dave Travillion's article would be accurate. And this is the way I heard the story of the Parker Repros 20 years or more when they went out of business. I knew several people who purchased them and liked them. Good luck.

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Originally Posted by Jimmy W
^^^I don't know who posted this post above me^^^ because I have them on ignore, but I just wanted to say that I would think that Dave Travillion's article would be accurate. And this is the way I heard the story of the Parker Repros 20 years or more when they went out of business. I knew several people who purchased them and liked them. Good luck.

Here is one way to catch a LIAR and a FOOL on the DoubleGunShop Forum

DimmyW claims he is IGNORING my Posts, which would mean that he does not wish to read them. Ever!

As a little test anyone can try, I went to DimmyW's profile and put him on IGNORE USER. Then I went back to this Thread, and any Post made by DimmyW simply was not there. His Posts were absolutely invisible to me, and simply did not show up for me in this, or any other Thread.

Then I went back to his profile and toggled UNIGNORE USER, and just like that, DimmyW's Posts reappeared to me.

That means if DimmyW was telling the truth, he wouldn't have even known that there was a Post made by me or someone that he was actually IGNORING. He would have seen nothing to respond to.

He never would have said "^^^I don't know who posted this post above me^^^". This is far worse than a pissed-off woman who is pretending to IGNORE her husband. This is a form of mental illness on full display.

DimmyW does this dumb shit quite often, so that also means DimmyW must toggle the IGNORE USER function, and actually reads the Posts of the people he claims to IGNORE. Then he goes back to IGNORING them until the next time he decides to peek and see what he is missing. And so it goes with most of the sensitive little sissies who claim to IGNORE others.

Ted's simple response of a Squirrel with a Nut in its mouth is appropriate, but doesn't go far enough to explain the behavior of DimmyW. A Squirrel would never be so stupid.... or a nut either.

I am as Pro-2nd Amendment as anyone, but guys who act like this probably should not own guns, or even any objects more dangerous than a dull crayon.

It would be easy for me to just IGNORE guys like DimmyW permanently, but I don't IGNORE anyone here because a big part of the entertainment I get from this forum is watching guys like him make absolute fools of themselves, and pointing out that much of what they say or do cannot be trusted. I don't know why, but it always seems to be the same low I.Q. guys who are dumb enough to support Anti-gun Democrats.


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Have you ever re-activated a gun Princess? We all know the answer, of course you haven't.

I have. This Gibbs .461 was de-activated, old school style with a hand drill run into the chamber and a steel plug pounded into place. Good to go now, the hole was tig welded up, the chamber bored and a sleeve was installed, then re-chambered, finally the finish was blended out without a polish of the metal. I'm sure that you have done plenty of jobs such as this Karen, or not wink

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I just learned that a guy who has me on ignore can send me PMs. Why he would do that, I don’t know.

You can delete PMs without reading them, as well. Good to know.

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Originally Posted by keith
Originally Posted by Stanton Hillis
Originally Posted by ed good
an as for repairin dim packers or any udder double gon havin a loose or disconnected breech block...

1. pack the barrels with Brownells heat sink paste, to protect whatever is holding the barrels together...

2. tin the barrels and breech block with lead/tin solder...

3. clamp it...

4. heat with propane torch? and solder it awl back together...

5. if this works, re blue barrels to make it look good...

6. if this don't work, try the opposite...

space age epoxy, that only works when frozen...

That may actually be the most useless post I have ever read. "If this don't work".

Did you get that from Master Gunsmith Ed Lander?

Here's yet another Post I made a couple days ago that didn't get Posted. I don't know if it was censored or if it was lost in cyberspace. I suppose the server could have crashed when I sent it because it was overwhelmed with all of DimmyW's recent Posts. It sure didn't crash due to a bunch of Parker Repros with failed barrel lumps being uploaded.

But anyhow Stan, I don't think Ed's recommendation of repairing this Parker Repro is the most useless Post. Soldering a barrel lump back on with tin/lead solder would not be my choice for this repair. But 67/33 eutectic tin/lead solder has a tensile strength of around 8000 lbs./sq. in. So it might actually hold for a little while even though that isn't near as strong as a good braze joint. Someone here used to maintain that a shotgun breech could be held closed by hand during firing without any bolting. Not sure I'd want to test that either. I don't know of any space age epoxy that only works when frozen, but I recall a Thread from Ghostrider where he suggested repairing badly pitted barrels by lining them with epoxy. I think that was far worse an idea than Ed's.

But when it comes to "Most Useless Post Ever", I'd bet both ClapperZapper and Princess Stevie are saying, "Hold my Beer!"

Just look at their recent Posts in Woodreaux's "Breech Face Question" Thread. Princess Stevie looked at it and said this:

Originally Posted by SKB
That may be an older method of deactivating a gun, I'm not sure, but that is what I think it is. I have seen deactivated guns(and repaired one) that were drilled through the chamber as a method of deactivation.

Can you believe that someone who claims to be a real gunsmith actually saw those holes as an older method of deactivating a gun?

And ClapperZapper looked at the same gun that obviously did not ever have any external hammers or any sign of filling in grooves or channels for a Pinfire pin, and he said this:

Originally Posted by ClapperZapper
Converted pinfire.

There are lots of old guns that have that vertical breech weld.
One of the shotgun magazines did an article about the guns that were converted
When regular commercial prepared cartridge just came along, there were a great number of wonderful guns that received an upgrade.

At least that’s what I think it is.
Originally Posted by keith
Originally Posted by Stanton Hillis
Originally Posted by ed good
an as for repairin dim packers or any udder double gon havin a loose or disconnected breech block...

1. pack the barrels with Brownells heat sink paste, to protect whatever is holding the barrels together...

2. tin the barrels and breech block with lead/tin solder...

3. clamp it...

4. heat with propane torch? and solder it awl back together...

5. if this works, re blue barrels to make it look good...

6. if this don't work, try the opposite...

space age epoxy, that only works when frozen...

That may actually be the most useless post I have ever read. "If this don't work".

Did you get that from Master Gunsmith Ed Lander?

Here's yet another Post I made a couple days ago that didn't get Posted. I don't know if it was censored or if it was lost in cyberspace. I suppose the server could have crashed when I sent it because it was overwhelmed with all of DimmyW's recent Posts. It sure didn't crash due to a bunch of Parker Repros with failed barrel lumps being uploaded.

But anyhow Stan, I don't think Ed's recommendation of repairing this Parker Repro is the most useless Post. Soldering a barrel lump back on with tin/lead solder would not be my choice for this repair. But 67/33 eutectic tin/lead solder has a tensile strength of around 8000 lbs./sq. in. So it might actually hold for a little while even though that isn't near as strong as a good braze joint. Someone here used to maintain that a shotgun breech could be held closed by hand during firing without any bolting. Not sure I'd want to test that either. I don't know of any space age epoxy that only works when frozen, but I recall a Thread from Ghostrider where he suggested repairing badly pitted barrels by lining them with epoxy. I think that was far worse an idea than Ed's.

But when it comes to "Most Useless Post Ever", I'd bet both ClapperZapper and Princess Stevie are saying, "Hold my Beer!"

Just look at their recent Posts in Woodreaux's "Breech Face Question" Thread. Princess Stevie looked at it and said this:

Originally Posted by SKB
That may be an older method of deactivating a gun, I'm not sure, but that is what I think it is. I have seen deactivated guns(and repaired one) that were drilled through the chamber as a method of deactivation.

Can you believe that someone who claims to be a real gunsmith actually saw those holes as an older method of deactivating a gun?

And ClapperZapper looked at the same gun that obviously did not ever have any external hammers or any sign of filling in grooves or channels for a Pinfire pin, and he said this:

Originally Posted by ClapperZapper
Converted pinfire.

There are lots of old guns that have that vertical breech weld.
One of the shotgun magazines did an article about the guns that were converted
When regular commercial prepared cartridge just came along, there were a great number of wonderful guns that received an upgrade.

At least that’s what I think it is.
Originally Posted by keith
Originally Posted by Stanton Hillis
Originally Posted by ed good
an as for repairin dim packers or any udder double gon havin a loose or disconnected breech block...

1. pack the barrels with Brownells heat sink paste, to protect whatever is holding the barrels together...

2. tin the barrels and breech block with lead/tin solder...

3. clamp it...

4. heat with propane torch? and solder it awl back together...

5. if this works, re blue barrels to make it look good...

6. if this don't work, try the opposite...

space age epoxy, that only works when frozen...

That may actually be the most useless post I have ever read. "If this don't work".

Did you get that from Master Gunsmith Ed Lander?

Here's yet another Post I made a couple days ago that didn't get Posted. I don't know if it was censored or if it was lost in cyberspace. I suppose the server could have crashed when I sent it because it was overwhelmed with all of DimmyW's recent Posts. It sure didn't crash due to a bunch of Parker Repros with failed barrel lumps being uploaded.

But anyhow Stan, I don't think Ed's recommendation of repairing this Parker Repro is the most useless Post. Soldering a barrel lump back on with tin/lead solder would not be my choice for this repair. But 67/33 eutectic tin/lead solder has a tensile strength of around 8000 lbs./sq. in. So it might actually hold for a little while even though that isn't near as strong as a good braze joint. Someone here used to maintain that a shotgun breech could be held closed by hand during firing without any bolting. Not sure I'd want to test that either. I don't know of any space age epoxy that only works when frozen, but I recall a Thread from Ghostrider where he suggested repairing badly pitted barrels by lining them with epoxy. I think that was far worse an idea than Ed's.

But when it comes to "Most Useless Post Ever", I'd bet both ClapperZapper and Princess Stevie are saying, "Hold my Beer!"

Just look at their recent Posts in Woodreaux's "Breech Face Question" Thread. Princess Stevie looked at it and said this:

Originally Posted by SKB
That may be an older method of deactivating a gun, I'm not sure, but that is what I think it is. I have seen deactivated guns(and repaired one) that were drilled through the chamber as a method of deactivation.

Can you believe that someone who claims to be a real gunsmith actually saw those holes as an older method of deactivating a gun?

And ClapperZapper looked at the same gun that obviously did not ever have any external hammers or any sign of filling in grooves or channels for a Pinfire pin, and he said this:

Originally Posted by ClapperZapper
Converted pinfire.

There are lots of old guns that have that vertical breech weld.
One of the shotgun magazines did an article about the guns that were converted
When regular commercial prepared cartridge just came along, there were a great number of wonderful guns that received an upgrade.

At least that’s what I think it is.

In reference to what I actually stated back in December of 2020.

I think the idea has some merit. I spent my career in the aerospace service industry and was tasked with finding safe and economical repairs due to design issues, corrosion, failures, etc.
I wouldn�t dismiss the possibility of using some of the latest super epoxies or other products that have come out in just the past few years.
I have also thought of repair ideas that might be used to repair barrel corrosion and pitting.
We repaired some high dollar landing gear struts that had internal corrosion by machining the internal barrel of the strut and have the barrel chromed. Could this be done on a shotgun barrel? I�m not sure.

Could a thin metal sleeve be hydroformed inside the barrel after back boring? Not sure.
Could a barrel be back bored and then heat the barrel in an oven, super cool the sleeve using methanol and dry ice then press the sleeve in for a interference fit? No bonding agent needed possibly eliminating the issues Teague experienced.
Wouldn�t resolve the issue of making a dent non repairable but if you had a unserviceable barrel to begin with you got more time out of the barrel then you would have in the pitted state you are ahead of the game.

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Anything can be fixed. But, that doesn’t mean anything should be fixed. What is the budget for repairing old double gun barrels?

Not as much as most of us might think.

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[quote=keith-
a big part of the entertainment I get from this forum is watching guys like him make absolute fools of themselves, and pointing out that much of what they say or do cannot be trusted.[/quote]

That might be more impressive if you were not wrong so often Karen. I will bet that is a result of your lack of experience in most of the subjects that you pontificate upon.

All my best Princess.

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Originally Posted by Ghostrider
Originally Posted by keith
Originally Posted by Stanton Hillis
Originally Posted by ed good
an as for repairin dim packers or any udder double gon havin a loose or disconnected breech block...

1. pack the barrels with Brownells heat sink paste, to protect whatever is holding the barrels together...

2. tin the barrels and breech block with lead/tin solder...

3. clamp it...

4. heat with propane torch? and solder it awl back together...

5. if this works, re blue barrels to make it look good...

6. if this don't work, try the opposite...

space age epoxy, that only works when frozen...

That may actually be the most useless post I have ever read. "If this don't work".

Did you get that from Master Gunsmith Ed Lander?

Here's yet another Post I made a couple days ago that didn't get Posted. I don't know if it was censored or if it was lost in cyberspace. I suppose the server could have crashed when I sent it because it was overwhelmed with all of DimmyW's recent Posts. It sure didn't crash due to a bunch of Parker Repros with failed barrel lumps being uploaded.

But anyhow Stan, I don't think Ed's recommendation of repairing this Parker Repro is the most useless Post. Soldering a barrel lump back on with tin/lead solder would not be my choice for this repair. But 67/33 eutectic tin/lead solder has a tensile strength of around 8000 lbs./sq. in. So it might actually hold for a little while even though that isn't near as strong as a good braze joint. Someone here used to maintain that a shotgun breech could be held closed by hand during firing without any bolting. Not sure I'd want to test that either. I don't know of any space age epoxy that only works when frozen, but I recall a Thread from Ghostrider where he suggested repairing badly pitted barrels by lining them with epoxy. I think that was far worse an idea than Ed's.

But when it comes to "Most Useless Post Ever", I'd bet both ClapperZapper and Princess Stevie are saying, "Hold my Beer!"

Just look at their recent Posts in Woodreaux's "Breech Face Question" Thread. Princess Stevie looked at it and said this:

Originally Posted by SKB
That may be an older method of deactivating a gun, I'm not sure, but that is what I think it is. I have seen deactivated guns(and repaired one) that were drilled through the chamber as a method of deactivation.

Can you believe that someone who claims to be a real gunsmith actually saw those holes as an older method of deactivating a gun?

And ClapperZapper looked at the same gun that obviously did not ever have any external hammers or any sign of filling in grooves or channels for a Pinfire pin, and he said this:

Originally Posted by ClapperZapper
Converted pinfire.

There are lots of old guns that have that vertical breech weld.
One of the shotgun magazines did an article about the guns that were converted
When regular commercial prepared cartridge just came along, there were a great number of wonderful guns that received an upgrade.

At least that’s what I think it is.
Originally Posted by keith
Originally Posted by Stanton Hillis
Originally Posted by ed good
an as for repairin dim packers or any udder double gon havin a loose or disconnected breech block...

1. pack the barrels with Brownells heat sink paste, to protect whatever is holding the barrels together...

2. tin the barrels and breech block with lead/tin solder...

3. clamp it...

4. heat with propane torch? and solder it awl back together...

5. if this works, re blue barrels to make it look good...

6. if this don't work, try the opposite...

space age epoxy, that only works when frozen...

That may actually be the most useless post I have ever read. "If this don't work".

Did you get that from Master Gunsmith Ed Lander?

Here's yet another Post I made a couple days ago that didn't get Posted. I don't know if it was censored or if it was lost in cyberspace. I suppose the server could have crashed when I sent it because it was overwhelmed with all of DimmyW's recent Posts. It sure didn't crash due to a bunch of Parker Repros with failed barrel lumps being uploaded.

But anyhow Stan, I don't think Ed's recommendation of repairing this Parker Repro is the most useless Post. Soldering a barrel lump back on with tin/lead solder would not be my choice for this repair. But 67/33 eutectic tin/lead solder has a tensile strength of around 8000 lbs./sq. in. So it might actually hold for a little while even though that isn't near as strong as a good braze joint. Someone here used to maintain that a shotgun breech could be held closed by hand during firing without any bolting. Not sure I'd want to test that either. I don't know of any space age epoxy that only works when frozen, but I recall a Thread from Ghostrider where he suggested repairing badly pitted barrels by lining them with epoxy. I think that was far worse an idea than Ed's.

But when it comes to "Most Useless Post Ever", I'd bet both ClapperZapper and Princess Stevie are saying, "Hold my Beer!"

Just look at their recent Posts in Woodreaux's "Breech Face Question" Thread. Princess Stevie looked at it and said this:

Originally Posted by SKB
That may be an older method of deactivating a gun, I'm not sure, but that is what I think it is. I have seen deactivated guns(and repaired one) that were drilled through the chamber as a method of deactivation.

Can you believe that someone who claims to be a real gunsmith actually saw those holes as an older method of deactivating a gun?

And ClapperZapper looked at the same gun that obviously did not ever have any external hammers or any sign of filling in grooves or channels for a Pinfire pin, and he said this:

Originally Posted by ClapperZapper
Converted pinfire.

There are lots of old guns that have that vertical breech weld.
One of the shotgun magazines did an article about the guns that were converted
When regular commercial prepared cartridge just came along, there were a great number of wonderful guns that received an upgrade.

At least that’s what I think it is.
Originally Posted by keith
Originally Posted by Stanton Hillis
Originally Posted by ed good
an as for repairin dim packers or any udder double gon havin a loose or disconnected breech block...

1. pack the barrels with Brownells heat sink paste, to protect whatever is holding the barrels together...

2. tin the barrels and breech block with lead/tin solder...

3. clamp it...

4. heat with propane torch? and solder it awl back together...

5. if this works, re blue barrels to make it look good...

6. if this don't work, try the opposite...

space age epoxy, that only works when frozen...

That may actually be the most useless post I have ever read. "If this don't work".

Did you get that from Master Gunsmith Ed Lander?

Here's yet another Post I made a couple days ago that didn't get Posted. I don't know if it was censored or if it was lost in cyberspace. I suppose the server could have crashed when I sent it because it was overwhelmed with all of DimmyW's recent Posts. It sure didn't crash due to a bunch of Parker Repros with failed barrel lumps being uploaded.

But anyhow Stan, I don't think Ed's recommendation of repairing this Parker Repro is the most useless Post. Soldering a barrel lump back on with tin/lead solder would not be my choice for this repair. But 67/33 eutectic tin/lead solder has a tensile strength of around 8000 lbs./sq. in. So it might actually hold for a little while even though that isn't near as strong as a good braze joint. Someone here used to maintain that a shotgun breech could be held closed by hand during firing without any bolting. Not sure I'd want to test that either. I don't know of any space age epoxy that only works when frozen, but I recall a Thread from Ghostrider where he suggested repairing badly pitted barrels by lining them with epoxy. I think that was far worse an idea than Ed's.

But when it comes to "Most Useless Post Ever", I'd bet both ClapperZapper and Princess Stevie are saying, "Hold my Beer!"

Just look at their recent Posts in Woodreaux's "Breech Face Question" Thread. Princess Stevie looked at it and said this:

Originally Posted by SKB
That may be an older method of deactivating a gun, I'm not sure, but that is what I think it is. I have seen deactivated guns(and repaired one) that were drilled through the chamber as a method of deactivation.

Can you believe that someone who claims to be a real gunsmith actually saw those holes as an older method of deactivating a gun?

And ClapperZapper looked at the same gun that obviously did not ever have any external hammers or any sign of filling in grooves or channels for a Pinfire pin, and he said this:

Originally Posted by ClapperZapper
Converted pinfire.

There are lots of old guns that have that vertical breech weld.
One of the shotgun magazines did an article about the guns that were converted
When regular commercial prepared cartridge just came along, there were a great number of wonderful guns that received an upgrade.

At least that’s what I think it is.

In reference to what I actually stated back in December of 2020.

I think the idea has some merit. I spent my career in the aerospace service industry and was tasked with finding safe and economical repairs due to design issues, corrosion, failures, etc.
I wouldn�t dismiss the possibility of using some of the latest super epoxies or other products that have come out in just the past few years.
I have also thought of repair ideas that might be used to repair barrel corrosion and pitting.
We repaired some high dollar landing gear struts that had internal corrosion by machining the internal barrel of the strut and have the barrel chromed. Could this be done on a shotgun barrel? I�m not sure.

Could a thin metal sleeve be hydroformed inside the barrel after back boring? Not sure.
Could a barrel be back bored and then heat the barrel in an oven, super cool the sleeve using methanol and dry ice then press the sleeve in for a interference fit? No bonding agent needed possibly eliminating the issues Teague experienced.
Wouldn�t resolve the issue of making a dent non repairable but if you had a unserviceable barrel to begin with you got more time out of the barrel then you would have in the pitted state you are ahead of the game.
So, Ghostrider, do you think any of this super glue that they use to glue ribs on guns would hold the lugs on barrels and be strong enough to stay together for good? Or do you think that there is any glue strong enough to do that? I am not familiar with that type of glue- I have only vaguely heard about it on websites like this one. Thanks.

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