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The damascus pattern can be seen plain as day in the two photos with the top rib street address and also on the bottom barrel flat above the hinge lug.
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The damascus pattern can be seen plain as day in the two photos with the top rib street address and also on the bottom barrel flat above the hinge lug. Yup.
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It looks to be a Webley Screw Grip locking mechanism.
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Lots of action makers copied the screw grip concept. HB&P, Osborne, etc.
If you can see course threads on the spindle when looking at the recess in the action for the barrel extension/grip, it was more than likely made by Webleys.
The two piece spindle/top lever is Webley patent, but again, lots of makers borrowed this design after the patent ran out.
It’s very possible that Chas. Osborne made the gun/action as they were prolific makers to the trade. There might possibly be clues to the action/gun origin stamped on the inside of the action itself.
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why is there a damascus pattern under the bluing?
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why is there a damascus pattern under the bluing? I see it too Mike. I can see the Damascus pattern on the small screen of my cell phone, and see it much easier on my PC monitor. But some people only see what they want to see.
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The gun was originally proved 1896-1904, and clearly marked CHOKE
Reproved 1955 if the date code is 'FB'; 1964 if 'PB' with bore .729"
The original 12 would be .729 - .739 so likely not honed
Yes, crolle damascus barrels
You might ask the seller to chalk or grease pen the top rib to get the words
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There might possibly be clues to the action/gun origin stamped on the inside of the action itself. Certainly worth a look, thanks for the idea.
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I’m always hesitant to say from a couple internet photos that a gun is positively a Webley screw grip. Our own “Gunman” worked in the factory, and pointed out that there was a second action, that was common, and similar, but NOT a Webley Screw Grip. That action didn’t have a proper name, as he recalled. It was used all over the place, also.
I think Dustin is right on the money with how to properly I.D. a Screw Grip, but, I can’t see inside the action in these photos.
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The gun was originally proved 1896-1904, and clearly marked CHOKE
Reproved 1955 if the date code is 'FB'; 1964 if 'PB' with bore .729"
The original 12 would be .729 - .739 so likely not honed
Yes, crolle damascus barrels
You might ask the seller to chalk or grease pen the top rib to get the words Thanks - that's where I am on the proofs as well. Between the wizardry of 4x optical zoom and the macro lens on the iPhone 17 Pro...and an "Ansel" action I built in Photoshop, I'm going with it being "FB": ![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/Vk4wNnJz/reproof-Ansel.jpg) ...so 1955. Getting the gun out into sunlight makes it more visible. I appreciate almost everyone who pointed that out for me - it makes the gun more interesting to me.
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