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Good to hear from you Raimey. Everyone else appears to have me on "Ignore" Unfortunately not many of the marks remain Upper L '16 something' likely the bore at the time of final (3rd) proof I think it's a 16 in the diamond lower R The crowned proof house mark remains lower R Yes, an expert repair of a separated dovetail lump ![[Linked Image from photos.smugmug.com]](https://photos.smugmug.com/Belgian/Makers-Marks/i-3kBnLkQ/0/NgtWNjdjSZTZSfj63k3xfpSGKJvTNgXnk6NjVRsQg/L/BDDkj4sp_t-L.jpg) Possibly the 'gunsmith' could be recruited to tackle this repair  ![[Linked Image from photos.smugmug.com]](https://photos.smugmug.com/Repairs-Restoration/i-k8qLMG8/0/MsZfBFkJgj54kTWdHNshsr4RjdvMkFDSkmMg5tqCV/M/Parker%20repro%20failed%20braze-M.jpg)
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Good to hear from you Raimey. Everyone else appears to have me on "Ignore" Unfortunately not many of the marks remain Upper L '16 something' likely the bore at the time of final (3rd) proof I think it's a 16 in the diamond lower R The crowned proof house mark remains lower R Yes, an expert repair of a separated dovetail lump Possibly the 'gunsmith' could be recruited to tackle this repair Bet not. Best, Ted
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Thanks Hause and some of the Greats are Just Worthy of Ignoring......
Most interesting on ACCI and what exactly does that stand for??
Any word on the double stamp of stylized & intertwined EL on the tubes?
Hochachtungsvoll,
Raimey
rse
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The stylized EL was applied at the time of the first Provisional Proof. It's pretty common to see it double stamped, and I don't know why. Maybe at the 2nd proof of the joined tubes. Nothing definitive on the 'ACCI' and I haven't found a barrel maker with those letters (which the Belgians tended to dyslexicly rearrange for our confusion ). Later SPI doubles frequently had the ‘LLH’ of Laurent Lochet-Habran and 'ACL' in an oval of Acier Cockerill LiegeMaybe Société Anonyme John Cockerill??
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If the desired end result is keeping the gun from being fired, I question the “squirt epoxy into the firing pin holes” method of doing that. With just a bit is disassembly, the pins, hammer springs, or both being removed, could keep it from being fired by some optimistic sport.
Trust me, the virginity is long gone, someone has been in there, before. Do the task correctly.
Best,
Ted
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Cracker Barrel missed out on this one...
JR
Last edited by John Roberts; 05/19/26 07:02 PM.
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I am reminded of my friend Walter Grass' tale about joining the barrel bundles for Heym guns together with "hart lot"/hard solder/braze made from opened and flattened cartridge cases, when they were suffering material shortages while re-starting operations after the war. I am sure they did a much better job than this.
Mike
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"it's a poor sort of memory that only works backwards."
lewis carroll, Alice in Wonderland
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The owner states he has no intention of firing the gun, will render it inoperable and hang it on the wall. Thank you all for your help in satisfying his curiosity.
Alan
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