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Duckcrazy, I promise you, #4 steel or smaller will not damage a BSS with.018" or less chokes. I have proven such.

There are LOTS of threads regarding steel shot in BSS, and lots of...uh...bs
Miroku has not revealed the composition of the "Special Steel" barrels, but it is widely believed to be 4140 Chrome Moly.
And as observed the boxlock BSS is not a light-weight game gun.
Japan is not a member of CIP, but any Miroku sold in a CIP member nation must be proof tested to CIP standards, starting in 1969, though England did not become a signatory until 1980.
“Standard Proof” is for lead or steel - limited to no larger than 3.25 mm / U.S. No. 4s and max. fps 1,300.
As Stan observed, it is recommended to use choke no tighter than modified (unless using steel No. 7 target loads)

You can explain it to someone, Doc, but you cannot understand it for them.

While I would never do this, I have a book written by Worth Mathewson entitled Big December Canvasbacks in which the author describes a L C Smith he used for many years with steel shot on the Pacific Northwest coastal region. Something minor went wrong with the gun and he took it to a gunsmith who told him the chokes were full and full. He also told him that the barrels had not been damaged by the steel shot. Point? Sometimes people obsess too much over the steel shot/old barrel deal. Prolly the same ones (like Ed, or is it Dirty Harry?) that decry shooting smokeless powder in damascus barrels.

Ed also thinks a BSS is a "collectible" gun. I don't. I've shot mine so much at ducks that it is off face. I keep a shim on the hook, and just keep on shooting my "collectible" BSS.

[quote=Stanton Hillis]You can explain it to someone, Doc, but you cannot understand it for them.

While I would never do this, I have a book written by Worth Mathewson entitled Big December Canvasbacks in which the author describes a L C Smith he used for many years with steel shot on the Pacific Northwest coastal region. Something minor went wrong with the gun and he took it to a gunsmith who told him the chokes were full and full. He also told him that the barrels had not been damaged by the steel shot. Point? Sometimes people obsess too much over the steel shot/old barrel deal. Prolly the same ones (like Ed, or is it Dirty Harry?) that decry shooting smokeless powder in damascus barrels.

Ed also thinks a BSS is a "collectible" gun. I don't. I've shot mine so much at ducks that it is off face. I keep a shim on the hook, and just keep on shooting my "collectible" BSS. :gr

Stan, Every Body has their own opinion of things, If you have seen a 50 gallon barrel full of ''Blown'' Damascus barrels like I have ''SEEN'', YOU might change your opinion on shooting them.
As far as B-SS Browning's go, I think they are the ''Best'' double gun made in the last 50 years. The 30in. barrels ones are in ''High Demand''. At one time I taught Parker Repros were the 2nd. best made
double gun made in the last 50 years, ''NOT Any More''. Breaking Down,Barrel lugs falling off, Stocks Cracking in half, Trigger problems, just too many parts in them to go wrong. And not enough drop in the stocks.
Have a nice day, And finally, Weather up my way has been ''Great'' (NO Rain)

Dirty Harry

That's pretty impressive - I would have thought that the BSS - as stout as they are - would be one of those guns you could shoot 1 1/2 ounces of rusty roofing nails out of for 100 years before it was loose.

You're using that gun the way it was meant to be used; I like to see that.

well stan, one thang fur sur, yo beat up old worn out bss, ain't got much collector value...dats fur sur...

bss guns in fine condish seem to go up about ten percent a year...

better than money in the bank...

I'd rather have my old "beat up, worn out BSS" than any shotgun you ever ruined with an acetylene torch attempting to "re-case color".

You are a shyster posing as a gun dealer and the laughing stock of this forum. And, you can't seem to comprehend it.

Say, Ed, how many ducks you ever killed with a double gun? How much steel shot you ever gone through? When you have zero experience with something you should keep your mouth shut.

Dez Young made the BSS popular and a nice one around here will command up to $3000.00- just for the boxlock 20 gauge if they aren't boogered up someway. They don't stay on consignment long. It took me a long time before I found mine-a new one in the box a couple years ago. I have bought several guns with screw in chokes that were made at the factory with them, mainly for a specific shooting sport. Nothing wrong with that. But, I don't know how many times I have seen a guy at my club pull out a nice Model 21, Browning Superposed or an AH Fox and then reach in his trunk for a tire tool and start digging out screw in chokes. 😁 Or get out on the sporting clays course and you have to wait for some guy to change the chokes at every stand. Or you get on the trap line and start to call for a target and someone down the line is missing and everyone looks around and he's back there deciding to change the choke and you know he's shot that same gun for years and by now that choke should be encrusted into that gun. That is one of the best things about shooting over the years- is always being enlightened by people and their shooting habits. Like spending a ton of money on a gun and the first thing they do is have someone grind out the chokes. It's like the farrier who fits the horse to the shoe rather than fitting the shoe to the horse. Like I said before, they make Mossbergs and CZs for that. But, to each his own. Okay by me. 🤣

Stan, can usually tell when your arrogance takes control of your mouth...

that's when you resort to personal attacks...

jimmy, pretty much agree...

who was dez young?