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Wrong Princess Karen, I made the mistake of voting for that Criminal Trump only one time, in 2016.

Tariffs, the war in Iran, destroying the post WWII world order that brought America vast wealth, all are piss poor policy. I don't support Trump or MAGA and won't be voting GOP for a very long time to come after the economic damage Trump's failed policies have caused me. I didn't complain about inflation under Biden because my business was thriving and I was making enough money that the inflation did not hurt me, unlike the Trump years where my income has taken a huge hit and inflation is surging.

Trump has me convinced, GOP policy is not in my best interest, my bank account certainly shows that.


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Very informative conversation, I can add that the gold standard was $25 (ca.1900) Winchester 1897. It's still very sought after classic repeater that holds value quite well. It took me long time to find 16ga one in good shape for $450.

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Mention of the Depression reminds me that not only were these affordable “Everyman” doubles tools of provision and protection for the large segment of Americans at the bottom of the economic scale they were also responsible for saving at least one American gun company.

1929 dawned with optimism and promise and for good reason - America had just gone through a decade of so-called “permanent prosperity” and this same “Everyman” had, for the first time, become an investor (via margin accounts, unfortunately). Meanwhile, on the banks of Fall Creek at the southern end of New York’s Finger Lakes region, Smith and Livermore, the hands-on owners of Ithaca Gun Co. were doing what they’d been doing through decades of successful operation: they were making their own assessments and planning and implementing accordingly.

The result was instead of launching a high end model to tap into this growing wealth across America, they introduced a new double at the opposite end of the spectrum: the Ithaca Western Arms “Long Range”.

And when 1929’s true character crashed onto the scene, Ithaca “just happened” to be ready. Annual sales of the flagship NID plunged from thousands to hundreds bottoming out in 1934 at zero.

And the Long Range? From 1929 - 1939, Ithaca sold 49,000+. And the company was saved.

Competitors and critics claimed it was luck. I believe it was a classic American example of the aphorism:

The smarter I work
The “luckier” I get.

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Originally Posted by SKB
Wrong Princess Karen, I made the mistake of voting for that Criminal Trump only one time, in 2016.

Tariffs, the war in Iran, destroying the post WWII world order that brought America vast wealth, all are piss poor policy. I don't support Trump or MAGA and won't be voting GOP for a very long time to come after the economic damage Trump's failed policies have caused me. I didn't complain about inflation under Biden because my business was thriving and I was making enough money that the inflation did not hurt me, unlike the Trump years where my income has taken a huge hit and inflation is surging.

Trump has me convinced, GOP policy is not in my best interest, my bank account certainly shows that.

Princess Stevie, your dishonesty borders on pathological. I absolutely confronted you numerous times during the 2020 election cycle about being an apparent Biden supporter, due to the same constant criticism and crying you have done about Trump ever since he became a politician.

But you denied it, and even lied by saying it would be foolish for someone in your profession to support an anti-gun Democrat. Yet you never stopped being critical of Trump, and I called you out on it every time. Then you began to openly support Biden shortly after Trump was elected in 2024. This was no surprise to anyone with two good eyes who could see you have always been a closet Liberal Democrat who claimed to be an "independent moderate".

Now your Trump Derangement Syndrome has reached a boiling point where you inform us that you intend to hold the entire GOP responsible for Trump's sins "for a very long time."

It is dishonest and idiotic to say that the much higher inflation rate under Biden didn't hurt you, but the much lower inflation rate under Trump has killed your business, and hurt your income and bank account. Fact is, the 20-25% Bidenflation hurt everyone who earned, spent, or saved U.S. dollars. It eroded the savings and retirement accounts of your gun buying customers, and continues to be a huge factor in their spending... especially those on fixed retirement incomes. Biden spent a lot more on military aid to Ukraine than the Iran war cost, but you'll say nothing about that either.... even though both Russia's invasion and Iran's nuke and terror funding program can be traced to Democrat ineptitude.

You are still predictably silent about the massive job losses under Biden, and the fact that the only reason he could claim any improvement at all was the numbers of people who returned to work after Democrats forced a massive economic Covid19 shut-down. But the oil drilling, oil pipeline construction, and coal mining jobs didn't come back, and those workers were advised to "learn to code". Nor will you admit that inflation adjusted gas prices were much higher and lasted much longer under Biden.

So now you cry to us like a baby about your failing business, even though the guns you buy at auction in the U.K. are historically cheap. You act like the 10% Tariff you pay and then pass on to your customers is killing you, when the guns they are buying now are much less than 10% cheaper than they were 10-20 years ago. Maybe you should complain to the U.K. about the 9.8%. Tariff they impose on U.S. agricultural products and other Trade barriers and impediments to that Post-WWII order you touted as being good for America.

We don't see any other Gun Dealers crying like you do about Trump. They aren't complaining about surging inflation or losing money. So maybe the real problem lies with you. Maybe your customers have less disposable income after that 20-25% Bidenflation, and maybe many of them are choosing not to deal with a Gun Dealer who openly supports anti-gun Democrats. And perhaps they also see you bashing Trump here on a regular basis, while also taking advantage of this forum's site Administrator by engaging in inappropriate Free Tagline Advertising of your For-Profit business ventures.

Since you refuse to say if you have paid Dave the $12.00 fee for each and every sale resulting from that Free Tagline Advertising, perhaps many potential customers feel that you shouldn't be trusted after being so evasive about such a simple question. Time to stop blaming Trump like a crybaby, and take a good look at the anti-gunner supporting Closet Democrat Libtard in your mirror.

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keet,we don care...

so stop wid duh tread trashin...

but, good news bout duh I ran peace deal, right?


keep it simple and keep it safe...
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