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Originally Posted by Wonko the Sane
Try some advice that works. Yardley is as good as anyone and far better than most. The no BS approach.

http://positiveshooting.com/GunFittingP1Main.html


I've been following this Thread without comment. The article in Dr. Wankers' link by Michael Yardley has good advice. I also have Yardley's book. "Gunfitting", and one thing stands out.

I can't recall anywhere Yardley suggests shooting a bird or clay target gun off sandbags. To get a good representation of point of impact from a pattern board, it seems apparent that shots at the pattern board should be taken using the same mounting and shooting style one would normally use on birds or clay targets. Save the sandbag rest for the slug gun and rifles.

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Keith, you still keep makin common cents here...

hopefully, some of it will rub off on some of our self focused colleagues...


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Originally Posted by Chantry
Originally Posted by Wonko the Sane
Try some advice that works. Yardley is as good as anyone and far better than most. The no BS approach.

http://positiveshooting.com/GunFittingP1Main.html

Thanks for the link.

I shot the Mears today, holding it higher in the shoulder helped. For better or worse I like the gun enough that I am reluctant to sell it.

Go to YouTube and find some reels of olympic trap competitions. Watch Giovanni Pellielo shooting. His career validates the style. Fairly typical of the Italian school.


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Galliano Rossini Gold Skeet 1956, Silver Trap 1960, 4th 1964 Olympics. Low mount and lots of lean

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WAY low mount and lean; Bina Avrile Guiducci., Italy, Ladies World Champion 1969

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Giovanni Pellielo Silver 2004, 2008, 2016 Trap

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Compare the forward hand position of Rossini and Pellielo

Then again, Glenn Eller
2016 Rio Olympic Games, Men's Double Trap
2012 London Olympic Games, Men's Double Trap
2008 Beijing Olympic Games, Gold, Men's Double Trap
2004 Athens Olympic Games, Men's Double Trap
2000 Sydney Olympic Games, Men's Double Trap

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Richard Faulds at Beijing 2008. He won Gold at Sydney 2000 Double Trap and lots of Sporting Clays titles. Note finger point

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Originally Posted by Chantry
Originally Posted by ClapperZapper
He said he shoots trap and skeet (generally pre-mount games), and rarely hits 50% with these guns.
He shoots left handed with right handed guns.

There has to be aiming error, and in-effective technique involved, not just gun fit.

While I don't doubt there are some issues on my end including aiming, I do have other English guns which I run high teens to low twenties shooting skeet.

I don't hunt, I'm not a collector and I get bored shooting the same gun every weekend. I shoot skeet for fun and to justify buying British shotguns. I'm pretty sure I've sorted out the issues with the Greener, it seems to like Fiocchi 1 oz #8 @1250 FPS. Those patterned much better than the Federal Top Gun. I think I've figured out the Mears, I need to get it higher in my shoulder. Hopefully that works, otherwise I'll probably sell the gun. And yes I know I should stick with just one gun.
Not that I am any expert or anything, but I agree- you should stick with one gun until you start shooting perfect or near perfect scores for a while. Then go to another gun. You kinda have to choose one or the other. Serious or funsies. But what the heck...if you shoot 21s and 22s that's not bad. I don't own one British gun. You have several. That's pretty cool. But good luck with what you decide. 👍

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I started shooting trap and kept trading up until I got a Ljutic mid rib. The stock and adjustable butt plate were set up for the last guy that owned it. And they were all out of whack for me. I couldn't hit squat with it. The guy I got it from was with me when I first shot it and he told me I had too bring the gun right up to the target. I started breaking targets left and right. I could tell the gun shot about 40/60 and I loved it. Big difference from the 686 I started out with. Soon I was breaking 25s and 49s or 50 straights in the league........... Now just for fun, I shoot an 870 or a new BT-99 I bought a few years back and things went south. I shoot for the fun of it. But I'll never forget the one ol' guy who would tease me when I was shooting that Ljutic- every time he'd see me he would shake his finger at me and say, "Now aren't you glad you did what I told you to do and stayed AWAY FROM THAT PATTERNING BOARD!! I'll never forget him. He's still around somewhere. 😆

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