I do not have any experience with the guns that you mentioned althoug I have an old AYA in 12, a Ugartechea grade 1 in 28 ga and two bespoke Arrietas in 12 & 20. I had a broken firing pin on the AYA but no other problems but the other guns are new. I like them. I cannot afford to purchase a bunch of English guns and I do not like the stock dimensions of classic amrerican guns and restocking is too expensive. I like the spanish guns and do all of my hunting with them.