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I like high condition guns and own quite a few, that said I completely see the advantage of buying a gun that is in excellent mechanical condition with some refinish work done for a lower dollar.
Different strokes for different folks I guess. Yep. Seems simple to understand. Dunno what the hullabaloo is all about. There isn’t really any hullabaloo. Your initial statement was you would rather have a refinished gun. Yes, there came many weasel words after that, and you never really did answer the actual question as to why the hell you, or, anyone else would prefer a refinished gun to a safe queen, a gun we would assume to be in pristine, unused condition. A refinished gun ends up that way because the finish went away. A safe queen is that way because somebody didn’t put it to use, and saw that it was well kept. You actually said, without any qualifiers, that you prefer the former. The OP was looking for signs of refinish for the same reason we all do-it is a huge signpost that said gun may have lived a hard life, perhaps had modifications, or will have undue wear or problems that need to be addressed after purchase, on his dime. It is, in fact, the clearest indicator of the need for the buyer to beware. Best, Ted Ted nailed it. Especially the part about the use of "Weasel Words" that were used to explain away a positively silly statement. Nothing was said about saving money by buying a gun that had been refinished, or even one that was cheap because it needed TLC or refinishing. Nothing was said about the fact that the cost of professional refinishing often cannot be recovered , which may make a properly refinished gun a good deal for a buyer. Leave it to the Liberal Left Princess Stevie to come up with silly excuses and qualifiers for the simple statement that clearly stated a preference for a refinished gun versus a closet queen. As we so often see here, Closet Liberal birds of a feather flock together. That's a lot of "Hullabaloo" when it would have been far better to admit the statement in question was wrong. Of course, that involves the ability to admit being wrong. It's especially amusing to see Princess Stevie once again crying about Moderation and having Posts delayed. It is ROTFLMAO amusing when you consider that she herself was a big proponent of Moderation, before she became subject to it. I'm sure she would still love it if it only affected Conservatives. She is actually blaming that situation on standing up to the so-called gotcha game where Posts are scrutinized and analyzed for any possible mistake or error. But Princess Stevie has a long history of doing exactly that herself. One quick example is all of the times she mocked me for suggesting Oatey No. 95 as a solder flux because it is a corrosive flux. Even after she was informed that many gunmakers used corrosive solder flux, and it was fine so long as any residue was neutralized, she still clinged to that gotcha moment. Analyzing Posts for gotcha moments hardly compares to the Internet Doxxing of members that Princess Stevie has done, or spending hours doing Internet searches of her enemies here. And she certainly spends a lot of time trying to push her own Liberal idealogical purity on a firearms forum, an insane idea that says anti-gun Democrats are the better choice, when nothing could be more absurd for gun owners.
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Goodness Ted, if I only bought and shot safe queens I would have missed out on lots of fun with some great guns. The man stated that HE prefers refinished guns, maybe it is a cost savings, maybe he feels like he isn't putting use on a collectable when he doesn't need to, maybe HIS choices are different from yours. Why do YOU care about what HE likes to shoot?
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Karen, I know how you live for the back and forth petty arguments, sorry to disappoint you, this will be my last post on this thread. The man said what he prefers, that should be enough. Why should he justify his reasons for you and Ted? He needs no qualifiers, those are his opinions. Some guys like blondes, I prefer brunettes. So what? I have no issues with my status on the board and having my posts delayed, it's Dave's sandbox and he can run it as he sees fit. Unlike an inexperienced troll such as yourself Karen, I have formed my opinions on corrosive and rosin fluxes over a couple of decades of experience soldering ribs, fore end lugs, sight bases, sling swivel bases etc. I stand by my comments, learn to use rosin flux and there is no need for corrosive flux and the extra step of neutralizing. I tend to lean towards traditional methods in my restoration work. Your vote is your choice, just like my vote is my choice. Don't like it Karen? I can send you a very, very tiny box of sand for you to pound if you like. I still have your address, or did you move out of your mom's basement? Maybe into the garage? All this dredging up the past makes one wonder, are you still hacking the PC's of members of this forum? Ah, the doxxing days, good times and fine memories. Enough rolling in the mud for now Princess Karen. PS, I sent you a PM the other day and you didn't respond. It seems your box is full again  All my best. Steve
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I like high condition guns and own quite a few, that said I completely see the advantage of buying a gun that is in excellent mechanical condition with some refinish work done for a lower dollar.
Different strokes for different folks I guess. Yep. Seems simple to understand. Dunno what the hullabaloo is all about. There isn’t really any hullabaloo. Your initial statement was you would rather have a refinished gun. Yes, there came many weasel words after that, and you never really did answer the actual question as to why the hell you, or, anyone else would prefer a refinished gun to a safe queen, a gun we would assume to be in pristine, unused condition. A refinished gun ends up that way because the finish went away. A safe queen is that way because somebody didn’t put it to use, and saw that it was well kept. You actually said, without any qualifiers, that you prefer the former. The OP was looking for signs of refinish for the same reason we all do-it is a huge signpost that said gun may have lived a hard life, perhaps had modifications, or will have undue wear or problems that need to be addressed after purchase, on his dime. It is, in fact, the clearest indicator of the need for the buyer to beware. Best, Ted Yawn. Yes, what I wrote wasn't terribly clear, but I explained. ...move on.
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I like high condition guns and own quite a few, that said I completely see the advantage of buying a gun that is in excellent mechanical condition with some refinish work done for a lower dollar.
Different strokes for different folks I guess. Yep. Seems simple to understand. Dunno what the hullabaloo is all about. There isn’t really any hullabaloo. Your initial statement was you would rather have a refinished gun. Yes, there came many weasel words after that, and you never really did answer the actual question as to why the hell you, or, anyone else would prefer a refinished gun to a safe queen, a gun we would assume to be in pristine, unused condition. A refinished gun ends up that way because the finish went away. A safe queen is that way because somebody didn’t put it to use, and saw that it was well kept. You actually said, without any qualifiers, that you prefer the former. The OP was looking for signs of refinish for the same reason we all do-it is a huge signpost that said gun may have lived a hard life, perhaps had modifications, or will have undue wear or problems that need to be addressed after purchase, on his dime. It is, in fact, the clearest indicator of the need for the buyer to beware. Best, Ted Yes, my post could have been clearer. But I explained, with no "weasel words." Time to let it go...
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